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Everyone Is Mad At Alicia, But…
"She did it."
Miss Jenkins: Celebrity gossip isn’t my thing, but when it raises a good topic for discussion, I’m all for it. Back in May, I got wind that Swizz (Swizz) Beatz was making bedsheet beats with Miss We-Are-the-World-Herself, Alicia Keys. Well this weekend, ish hit the fan, and Mrs. Mashonda Beatz started expressing herself about the impact of the situation on her and her family. I must say that I am impressed by Mashonda’s restraint and her ability to not go oops-upside Alicia’s head, even after 2 years of disrespect. I am hurt for her (because he dipped on her, and because her mother named her “Mashonda”). It can never feel good when your husband is running betwixt someone else’s sheets. On top of that, all your business is in the streets, and the woman has the nerve (or the good sense) to ignore your attempts to “discuss” the issue. No its not right for A. Keys to break up a “happy” home, but what about Swizz Beatz? He took the vows, not Alicia. Why aren’t people throwing stones at him?
Seattle Washington: Probably because they see a little of themselves in Alicia. I said it to Luvvie on Twitter and I’ll say it again, women need to lay off Alicia because women have been doing that since the dawn of time. Y’all snatch men like you’d snatch up his ex’s weave. I know a lot of women that will take a chick’s man if the chick isn’t doing him right (take that as you will). Women are competitive and catty as hell. I mean look at Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. They’re the favorite Hollywood couple, folks forget that she hijacked him from Jen Aniston as if she was trained by Al-Qaeda.
MJ: Yeah word. Everyone always has something bad to say about the “other woman.” She seems to get labeled as having low standards, wanting what she can’t or shouldn’t have, and being incapable of getting her own man. But when a man sleeps with someone’s boo, he’s just being a man, and getting his. I’m not saying that being the other woman is okay per se, but has anyone thought about what Swizz said to Alicia? What lies promises did he make to her? He told folks he was in love with her. Clearly his marriage was in the dumps and heading down the divorce path anyway, and he jumped ship early. I’m not condoning violating one’s wedding vows. I’m just saying… he broke the vows, not Alicia.
SW: Very true. He did. He jumped ship early. But we all know what happens if you wait a little too long. No one wants to end up on the bottom of the ocean over some chick like Leonardo DiCaprio in “Titanic”. In the words of Chris Rock, “I’m not saying it’s right, but I understand.” I mean Tiff, have you seen Alicia?! Geeeeezus. Dude probably melted like a Jell-O pudding pop in the middle of the Sahara as soon as she said, “You don’t know my name…” With that said, she’s far from incapable of getting her own man, it’s obvious dude wasn’t happy and he dipped into a pool that was a better fit for him. As far as the promises? Dude is on every blog site holding A. Keys’ french vanilla hand like they were confined to a buddy system. I think he’s upholding his side of whatever agreement they had.
MJ: I wonder how people would talk about Mashonda if she was the one who dipped out on Swizz with…let’s say Idris Elba (just cuz he’s yummy). Would people be slamming him and calling him a home wrecker? Probably not. But would people be calling Mashonda out her name and sending you’re a chump sympathy cards to Swizz for getting his ego broke in 2? I think so. The woman who is on any side of the cheating relationship gets shat on in ways that men never do, even when he is the one being unfaithful.
SW: It’s a horrible, horrible double standard. Women make the move on another woman’s man and they’re called bulldozing homewreckers. They step out on their own marriages and they’re branded an adulteressing whorebags. Cue the violins, pass out the Kleenex. ::Seattle plays world smallest violin::
Listen, there are double standards for each gender and we just have to deal with them. And even though Swizz has found something with Alicia (maybe), he will still get sh!t for it. He won’t be able to live his life with his new woman without being seen as “that guy that did that messed up ish to Mashonda gurl”. That is unless him and A. Keys adopt some kids from Africa, Southeast Asia and various parts of Europe like my homegirl SkinnyBlackGirl suggested. That’s her name by the way, I’m not making generalizations.
MJ: In closing, I am still going to buy her album when it comes out in December because she can sang.
SW: Oh, we’re done with the celebrity gossip talk? Cool, I need to watch some kind of sport and/or violence before my balls shrivel up.
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Love is love and you really can’t control it, but to go and find it with another woman’s husband is CRAAAAZZZZEEE. I really don’t understand the side chick mentality, and the crazy thing is you can’t even put a stereo type on these women. I go to professional events and the way women throw themselves at married men is unbelievable. I know I’m falling into the trap of blaming the woman, but I can’t help it, we’re built differently. I would say however many thoughts a man has before he has sex a woman has 100 more thoughts going through her head, its a very conniving move to sleep with a married man. I mentioned to my friend that Alecia keys was raised by a single mom, and may not have the ability to respect something she never experienced (still a lame excuse). And sure Alecia doesn’t own Moshonda anything, but now that little boy doesn’t wake up with his Dad everyday and she is apart of the reason. I would date a divorcee, but I could never be apart of the reason you leave your wife and family.
Swiss beats is a joke, Alecia is getting used for whatever inadequacies he’s trying to fill. Once the divorce is final and Moshonda has moved on, he will need more excitement in his life and so on to the next chick.
I was engaged and when I found out my man was cheating I kindly removed myself from the situation. The chick he was sliding off with clearly thought she was going to get everything she wanted but once I was out the picture, what they had wasn’t that exciting anymore and in the end I don’t talk to him and she doesn’t talk to him, because he never had any intensions of making her wifey, he was on to the next one (Karma at its best). Comes right back down to women thinking they can nurture a bad seed and it will grow and flourish to become a faithful, loving, kind husband….NOT!!!!!! Happy I learned that lesson 2 years ago.
I will still buy her music though, matter of fact I’m still bumping “As I am” and when this Swizzy thing falls apart, I know she’ll be penning a few hints about her pain.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:01 am
“I mentioned to my friend that Alecia keys was raised by a single mom, and may not have the ability to respect something she never experienced”
That’s a pretty unfortunate assumption to make…
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Nyela Goodness Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:27 am
Yea…that’s probably the worst (and fairly inaccurate) assumption ever.
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Slim Jackson Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am
Gotta be honest. I don’t think the assumption or excuse is all that far fetched. Absence of certain things in a person’s life can have a variety of effects. That doesn’t make their actions acceptable though.
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:43 am
I don’t know why AKeys had to grow up in a two-parent home to know that you can’t sleep with married men.
At some point, all the ills that you experienced as a child stop counting and you just have to GTFU (Grow the F*ck Up).
As my BFF says, “But the way I see it, by the time your ass is 15 the lack of Daddy and the pressures of how-to-be-a-black-man-in-a-white-world excuses are null and void and you are subject to any and every ass whipping coming your way.” Just apply that to everybody who didn’t have (enter something a child needs)…
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Renee Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:12 am
Hey, I was not a Psycology so my guess is probably as good as anyone else’s. Damn Nyela, is it really “the worse”??? :-/ But like I said I don’t understand the mentality, I’m probably just making excuses for her because I’m a fan.
ASmith I agree on GTFU-ing, they’re couple people I would like to tell that to.
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Nyela Goodness Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:48 am
OK maybe not the worst.lol But, to me, that’s like sayin’ I can’t appreciate chicken cuz I didn’t grow up on a farm. I just don’t think she needs some psychological excuse for why she fell in love with a man, who most likely stepped to her under the guise that his marriage was over.
Side note: I’m not an Alicia fan . . . at all.
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While clearly AK has some fault, my issue is always with them that have taken the vows.
Swizz stood up with Mashonda and vowed to keep a covenant with HER. So Mashonda needs to be calling him out for the cheating-ass-cheater that he is. Swizz deserves whatever butt-whipping Mashonda’s lawyer can break off.
Alicia’s fault is the flaunting, tweeting, “if-that’s-your-husband-he-wasn’t-last-night” jib-jab she’s putting out there. I was already on the fence about her because I believe her looks and figure have propelled her past far more talented artists (Jill Scott, Angie Stone, Ledisi) and she capitalizes on it to the max. Dangling her home wrecker card has done nothing to endear me to her. But a note to AK… baby, if he’ll cheat with you, he’ll cheat on you. Maybe that will be the title of her 2012 album?
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:58 am
hmmm…..
Alicia isn’t the first girl to sell b/c of looks. I don’t think we should blame her for Angie and Jill not becoming mega stars. I mean atleast Alicia has some talent. Look at Ashanti and Ciara.
Word to Jaguar Wright
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Brownbelle Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am
I agree. I don’t see what’s so hard about getting divorced, or at least legally separated, before you start things up with somebody else. As soon as it gets to the point where you know will cheat on your spouse and you DON’T CARE, you need to a) talk to your partner and get to a marriage counselor IMMEDIATELY if you actually want to save the marriage; or b) get a good lawyer. Cuz that is sooo disrespectful especially when you have kids. Do celebrities realize that their kids will be able to Google them and see ALL the dirt you did???
To Ms. Keys: We get it, you know how to get yo’ man. *rolls eyes* But please stop bragging, because you haven’t gotten anything worth wanting!
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I really don’t follow celebrity gossip either. I did not know that such an atrocious name as Mashonda existed before last week. I did however, know that A. Keys and S. Beats have been
slappin ugliesan item for-eva.You really can’t get mad at Alicia for this one. Besides the grimy-ness that Swizz got kids that he needs to be focusing on, she really seems to be in a relationship with a dude that she cares a lot about. I mean, its been 2 years. She’s in love. She may have pursued him, but it was up to S. Beats to end it before it exploded.
But I do agree that its always the woman that is told to back off. Everybody hated Gabrielle Union a few months ago and Superhead is an atrocity. Men are given a pass because allegedly evolution gave them the instinct to mate with as many women as possible to save the race…
Tis fine. Whatever. We won’t pay attention to the fact that the Earth is now overpopulated. But the message seems to be that dudes will wander, and its up to women to reduce their prospects by closing
their legsthemselves off. In my mind, the kicker is that dudes aren’t trying to procreate, they just want to bang! So… now what is the argument? Have we evolved to pre-season practice to save the human race???Reply
i feel for mashonda. especially if she was doing everything right as a loving wife and mother. if she was faithful, loyal all that good stuff, you can’t help but feel bad that alicia keys swooped her husband. i dont like how mashonda’s open letter kept blaming seeing a twitter update alicia wrote and took it as disrespect. “in love is it better to go 4 the choice that is “SMART” or the choice that has “SPARK”?” – alicia wrote on twitter. that may have nothing to do with mashonda or swiss, i guess it was just the straw that broke the camels back. but perhaps mashonda should have a long talk with her husband to see what went wrong and why he made the decision he made.
alicia doesn’t have any loyalty to mashonda buttttt… stealing another woman’s husband, or partaking in any kind of adultery is way out of her steez. or at least the steez she puts out there. her music really speaks to woman empowerment and respect and all that good stuff, yet hooking up with a married man is kinda low.
and swizz OD’d but its his decision and life, i guess he was really feeling the chick. i hope its worth it. you gotta question relationships where one person slides on a spouse, how does alicia know she won’t get skated on for ri ri in the streets or something.
just saying.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 8:38 am
“i feel for mashonda. especially if she was doing everything right as a loving wife and mother.”
This is the part that is still a little murky for me…After reading that letter, we could only think that she was being a great wife, but they seemed to be getting separated before A. Keys came in the picture (or at least before the media got wind of it). Not saying her not being a good wife makes it OK to creep…but a reason is a reason…
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Renee Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I have to say I wasn’t buying it when she said something to the effect of She was in a good marriage. She had to have been having some problems or see it coming. I don’t think him dating AK was his first coming out of grimey behavior, this is who he was all along, Moshonda cannot be that clueless, she married a hip hop producer (yes I’m going to put him in that buckett with all of those entertainer types) I have a feeling their marriage would have ended anyway, but its still out of pocket for Alecia to act like he’s free.
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If you leave a five year old and a 15 year old in a room by themselves, then come back and find a mess, who do you blame? Does it make any sense trying to figure out who’s responsible? Anyone who expects a man to be more faithful than his options is either naive, deeply in love or dated one of the “good ones”. Like the 15 year old, women are just supposed to know better. Sorry…guys didn’t make those rules…got that from older women.
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Still Water Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 8:56 am
“Anyone who expects a man to be more faithful than his options is either naive, deeply in love or dated one of the “good ones”. Like the 15 year old, women are just supposed to know better. Sorry…guys didn’t make those rules…got that from older women.”
Umm… Why?
Because women are weaker? We have smaller brains? We make 78 cents on the dollar? Men control the World!How do we liken them to 5 year olds, just because they don’t want to control their genitals?
I feel like men want to have all the power and take none of the responsibility.
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:14 am
Are you saying older women told you that? If so and they were talking about marriages, they led you a bit astray, here.
I’ll concede that women should make taking care of their emotions their #1 priority, but it is not my job to make sure a man does what the hell he’s supposed to and when you stand up and make those vows, then you’re supposed to stay faithful. Remember, we’re talking about a marriage, not a dating relationship.
Like Chris Rock said, black folks always want cookies for the shit they supposed to do.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
It may not be your (a woman’s) job to make sure he stays faithful, but it is a wife’s job to make sure that her husband has no reason to want to stray, just as its a husband’s job to make sure he wife keeps hers at home…
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:15 am
True, true.
But your statement spreads responsibility out. Ironman made it seem like it’s all the woman’s job.
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Ironman Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:34 am
I’m not talking about responsibility, I’m talking about reality. It’s not so much about what men are supposed to do, but what they actually do. Why are women the ones blamed for men stepping out? Cause women control sex. Plain and simple. Yeah, you’ve got your unique cases or lames with low sex drives, but for the most part, men want sex and women decide when and how they get it. When a man wants sex, and a woman doesn’t, and he gets it anyways, it’s called rape.
The situation with A-Keys and Mashonda is like a ghetto bus stop drama. Both of them are wrong. Keys was wrong for putting out subliminal messages like a female version of The Game. Mashonda was wrong for responding in public, even if she was classy about it. Regardless, it’s semi-entertaining…
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I love wrecking happy homes!!! The happier the better. =)
A.Keys is my hero. <3
Except she coulda done better than Swizzy… He looks like a cracked up hobo. I woulda gone for… President Obama. You gotta set higher goals, ladies!!! Its not worth wrecking a home if its not the White house. Monica Lewinski was on to something… =P
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:05 am
Some girls I knew in college called themselves the “home maker” crew. In other words, they asserted that women in relationships were so concerned about them taking their men that they would “get it right, get it tight” whenever they were around…
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am
I love you.
But shhhh don’t tell CHeekie.
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It’s more interesting to me that this makes news. Seriously. AKeys is doing what hundreds of women do everyday with a man who is doing what
thousandshundreds of men do everyday. ::shrug::I get that it’s the celebrity in it, and that Mashonda has now invited the public to comment with her open letter, but really… why do we care? No shade to the people who like following a juicy gossip line, but I say it’s bigger commentary on the standards to which we hold celebrities than commentary on anybody’s actual character.
Having said that, it ain’t an innocent party in this bunch. Alicia don’t need to be sleeping with married men, whether he loves her or not, Swizz don’t need to be stepping out on his wife, whether he’s over the marriage or not and Mashonda don’t need to be wirting open letters to Alicia like that’s going to fix or help anything.
Well, perhaps I lied. There is the son to be concerned with. He didn’t do ish to deserve to be in the middle of this foolishness.
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My granny told me “You lose ‘em the way you got ‘em,” so AK should be aware of the karma. Didn’t they BOTH step out on their SO? I coulda swore AK and Krucial were an item.
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I am and will continue to throw MAJOR shade at Alicia Keys.
What bothers me about the whole situation is that Alicia has developed this whole “I AM WOMAN” persona. She’s put herself out there as the everywoman and writes songs about empowering ourselves as women. She even wrote a damn song called Karma.
If Lil Kim breaks up your happy home, I’d expect that. I never heard a Nikki Manaj song in my life but just based on her moniker I would be surprised if she stole your man, but Alicia Keys… that hoe knows better.
It’s one thing when you are someone that people expect to have no morals but it’s another thing when you’ve repeatedly put your morals out there and played the good girl card.
Yes, I blame Swizzy. But once again, I’m not surprised by his actions.
In reading all of the craziness what I find most disturbing is that Mashonda confronted both of them two years ago when she first became suspicious that they had slept together and they both denied it. Then at some point when they were getting in it behind closed doors, some feelings developed and then they decided to go public with their trifflin behavior and that’s how Mashonda got confirmation that her man was stepping out.
THAT IS SOOOOOOOOO WACK! Personally, after the first incident I would have pulled a Teedra Moses “Get that b*tc# told tonight!!” But after I’ve confronted you to just lie and make a fool out of me. That’s wrong and unnecessary. Relationships fall apart, but damn, there’s a way to carry things.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:52 am
“It’s one thing when you are someone that people expect to have no morals but it’s another thing when you’ve repeatedly put your morals out there and played the good girl card.”
So falling in love with someone’s man makes her immoral? I think people are assuming that Alicia went up to dude hell bent on “taking” her away from Mashonda. Chances are it didn’t go down like that. But maybe it did. We don’t know how the two first started interacting. We don’t know how long either one of them resisted the urges. For all we know, Swizz could have lied and told her the divorce was final before it was…
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Ms. Cherry Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
“So falling in love with someone’s man makes her immoral? I think people are assuming that Alicia went up to dude hell bent on “taking” her away from Mashonda.”
Nope, but sleeping with someone’s husband is super shady. Sliding off with someone’s man and stepping into someone’s family is a different situation.
Their divorce is no where near final (I know only because the blogs have looked cause that would be public record). They haven’t even filed for divorce yet.
I don’t think Alicia stepped in like “I’m gonna take this chick’s man”, but there’s a thing called discretion, and she had none. Until he files for divorce you could be less brash about walking around w/ someone else’s husband on your arm.
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I don’t understand why Mashonda needs to discuss anything with A.Keys?
Whats done is done.
If I were in A.Keys place the only message I would send out is for everyone to kiss my ass in A minor.
If I were Mashonda I would focus on raising that baby, sprucing my public image and possibly coming out with a hit.
If I were swizz I’d keep my mouth shut, smile for the camera and work on making the best of a sticky situation.
Like all celebrity gossip we don’t know the half…so to judge take sides and act like I am a close and personal friend of the parties involved is bullshittery.
I will also be copping that album in December. Amen.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:56 am
lol. well said.
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From everything I read, it seems that the marriage was over and divorce talks have been around for some time. Perhaps the issue is that Alicia messed with him while he was still officially married? Or did Alicia play the fool like Robin did for Russell in Waiting to Exhale? Who really knows?
While I don’t condone home-wreckage, I’m inclined to believe the responsibility lies with the man who made the vows. Do we really think Alicia was like a piranha while dude was happily married, and he just couldn’t resist? Come on now…
Oh, and Mashonda OD’d with that letter. Yea, it was more cordial than one would expect. But Alicia don’t owe her a got dag on thing. She needs to put all that energy into a letter to her husband. Oh, and those tweets she claims Alicia slapped her in the face with? Mad vague! She coulda been writing a song about love!lol Nonsense, I tell ya…
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:46 am
Ahh geezus, another Waiting to Exhale reference…
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I haven’t even read the full letter. I heard about the story and thought “Oh. It’s another case of sliding off gone public.” People love negativity and the opportunity to jump on someone about it. What’s even worse is that I’m sure a good number of women getting at Alicia have probably slid off or been involved with a man that’s sliding off on his girl, but they turned a blind eye to it. Hypocritical Heffas. I tell ya.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:59 am
“What’s even worse is that I’m sure a good number of women getting at Alicia have probably slid off or been involved with a man that’s sliding off on his girl, but they turned a blind eye to it.”
Glad you said it, so I didn’t have to and risk getting my **insert something about being a woman** Card snatched.
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Streetztalk Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:41 am
COSIGN to the Nth Power!!
It is what it is mayne. Im actually about to drop a couple of bombshells over the next few weeks about this infidelity Phenomenon. 3ways crew, let me know if you choose to be Hiroshima or Nagasaki (no bullet/hood infested club in Hempstead)
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:47 am
Nagasaki had that ill food though. The one in Rosedale anyway.
Holla at me offline, we’ll set it up.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
That buffet is what’s up…
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I agree with Nyela Goodness in regards to the twitter question. VERY vague. I think Mashonda was looking for any opportunity to express herself publicly, and saw something that was perhaps not there…
Be that as it may, I’m sure there is more to the story; however, what we do know is that Swizzy stepped out (I too thought AK was head over heels for Krucial.) I always blame the person who stepped out. For whatever reasons, be it good or bad, end one relationship before starting a new one. You aren’t gonna play me in the street!
I’m also a believer in, “don’t let ‘em see you sweat!” So no, I would not have written an open letter on the internet. That’s corny. I cannot believe that she doesn’t know how to find AK and confront her face to face…
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i agree with the jolie/pitt/aniston reference. when angela stole brad from jennifer there was no public outcry as there is now. is it because they’re white? or is it because jennifer didn’t write a public letter to jennifer?
either way shit like this happens often. not saying its right but it amazes me that people seem to want to put all the blame on alicia. the biggest thing i would want to blame her for is getting with a man who has that big of a nose. dude looks like the love child of gonzo and a keebler elf.
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Slim Jackson Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:11 am
Really dog? Gonzo? LMAO
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
He’s been called Gonzo more than once out here in the innawebs…
Po’ big-nosed man.
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Tunde Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
yeah dawg. he can probably smell your thoughts.
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Reecie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:02 am
there totally was public outcry back then. major. Aniston is one of america’s sweethearts, and Jolie TOTALLY got trashed in the media. Maybe some of yall don’t follow mainstream gossip. there were even tee-shirts made in kitson “team aniston” “team jolie”. anyone remember those? I feel like its unfortunate how they got together in BOTH stories, but we do NOT know what went on inside their home. I feel bad for Jennifer Aniston because she is STILL being asked questions about Brad Pitt in interviews! can they leave that woman alone! LOL
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Oh no, I remember. I worked with a bunch of a women at the time and was subjected to all the celebrity gossip. The difference is that there was a Team Angelina. There is no Team A. Keys.
And no, we will not be selling tshirts with “Moshanda Clique” & “A. Keys Clique” on them.
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Messing with folks that are still legally married is um adultry straight up the married man and mistress are both equally @ fault………celeb or no celeb that sh*t is messy and trife and a HUGE no no in my book.
Yeah love happens when least expected or planned for, but if its real I’d be Superwoman enough to wait until that man is legally divorced and has handled that situation with tact and consideration………I swear that brawd is SO extra over-rated, bland souless music, new single included.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:32 am
“Yeah love happens when least expected or planned for, but if its real I’d be Superwoman enough to wait until that man is legally divorced and has handled that situation with tact and consideration”
Can you say that with 100% certainty? Cuz when love happens, folks do plenty of things they said they would never do…
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OrangeStar616 Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:48 am
if that man is married, YES I can say that for sure, its called respect and boundaries. I don’t ki ki with married men but I am cut from a diff cloth…..
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
But why are we holding AKeys to live by your morals?
If you don’t talk to marry men.. congrads. That doesn’t mean every woman in the world has to.
Its a corny unwritten law.
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OrangeStar616 Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
WOW @ “corny unwritten law” not to mess with married folk?? For serious???
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Well three ways fam, since I’m one for honesty… I was one of the women who went off on Alicia. I went off on Awesomely Luvvie’s letter to Alicia, talking about how Alicia’s good girl image is fake and it’s always the quiet ones pretending to be good girls doing the most dirt.
But after soul searching and a Twitter convo, I realized that my behind was dead wrong. Like really. It ain’t my job to judge Alicia and it certainly ain’t for me to comment on a situation, I truly know nothing about. And not only that but my behind is guilty of doing exactly what Alicia “did” or is accused of by getting involved with a guy who was in a relationship. So realistically, I was prolly feeling more guilty about my own discretions and frustration that the guy didn’t leave, so, I felt I needed to call her out.
I “dated” or was “friends” with two guys that had girlfriends while I was dealing with them. Now, I didn’t purposely seek them out nor did they me, but, we had some type of connection and would talk when the g/f wasn’t around. But, I never slept w/ either of them, cause I wouldn’t take it that far. However, in the end I know that it was my low-key female competiveness taking form. I felt that I was better than their g/f & if I just waited long enough…things would work out.
That other woman mentality combined with female competitivess is no joke.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:38 am
We ‘preciate your honesty, boo!
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LoudPen Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Thanks, dahling! Honesty is the best policy!
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Slim Jackson Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:51 am
I think your perspective is probably similar to a good number of the people going off on her. Glad you shared.
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Streetztalk Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am
TESTIFY!
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LoudPen Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Yea, you’re probably right. Guess I’m the only one bold enough to admit it.
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And I still would like to know what Swizz got between dem legs. Call Mashonda an ugly name, but, Mashonda herself ain’t ugly and neither is Alicia. Now, Swizz on the other hand….
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Renee Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
He may be an ugly dude with sick game, I don’t think looks has anything to do with it, even Tyra use to date Seal. I would much rather date an interesting screw face than a dull handsome lad. That in combination with the fact that he is loaded and could spoil the shit out of her. I bet they were having trist in hotel penthouses all over NYC (atleast in my head).
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Dang, orangestar. Tell us how you really feel!!! I think the real point is that regardless who’s at fault, if we don’t know the whole situation (and even if we did), we really have no right to pass judgment. Luke 6, in the same Book that outlines adultery and all that stuff…
I think there was a post about glass houses once… We need to revisit that one. And dang, I actually like Alicia Keys’ music… I don’t think she’s overrated at all. Esp nowadays when no one plays their own music, writes their own lyrics, and can sing… I ono…
@CheekZ… I love you too boo!! If Cheekie aint actin right refer to my name for the plan of action!
wink… wink…
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OrangeStar616 Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:57 am
folk need to turn off the radio LOL and discover how may real artists are actually out here, and I didn’t condemn anyone, messing with married folk is foul any way you look @ it, thats not throwing stones either…..Its simple to me, get a divorce before you start dealing with someone else.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:31 am
I’m not mad at Swizz for getting divorced.
You gotta put yourself in his shoes.
He doesn’t want to be with this chick anymore… but he is rich and she will take all his money.
Only thing foul about married men messing around is how unfair divorce law is to men.
ITS CHEAPER TO KEEP HER!
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:46 am
Nasir Jones learned that lesson. The milkshake brought too many divorce lawyers to the yard.
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LoudPen Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
in the words of Luvvie, iCan’t.
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Yo. great post. You can always get a good performance when you double team a jawn (no pause).
1) We are all losers. Esp anybody who talks bad about a person without knowing them or the situation. Dudes lie about their martial status ALL THE TIME! Blaming
A. Keys is ignorant, so is point two.
2) Can you stop with the “her music makes her a hypocrite” arguement. You put her morales in some type of set box based of other statements that she made concerning other issues. Just b/c some one does AIDS charity work that means they have to stay away from your man. Just because she believes all woman are beautiful that means she has to stay away from her man. No she is a bad person b/c Mashonda couldn’t hold on to her boo. She never said she wouldn’t take your man… so your man got took. From what I can see alot of these “afro-centric” chicks are kinda down for the meaningless sheezies. They think ‘labels’ are wack and are seizing their sexuality by jumping off.
3)Mashonda is purely just a jealous ex girl with some bad coochie and/or head skills who didn’t swallow that is trying to insert herself into her ex’s love life. THERE IS NO REASON WHY AN EX HAS TO TALK TO YOUR CURRENT GIRL…NO REASON! Don’t call my new boo. Don’t txt my new boo. Don’t try to reach out to my new boo. Don’t comment about my new boo. Don’t write one-sided open letters that show how insecure you are. It was your marriage, you are responsible to keep it together. Swizz needs to get his pimp hand strong b/c no ex needs to be running her mouth like that.
4)Don’t use the kid as an excuse. People get divorced all the time. No one is stating for some kid. A kid doesn’t make up for bad poomps. A kid doesn’t make up for constant b!tching. Yeah we brought a life into this world Mashonda, but now your horrible attitude is ruining my life. And unlike your music career, mine is successful (atleast ever since I produce Bring Em Out for TI, really that was the beginning of my come back) so there is no reason why I should be unhappy. He left her fair and square, so what he dipped a litte into the new goodies.. point is he left. NOW the hooker won’t finalize the divorce… LET IT GO!
5) Dudes take girls from other men ALL THE TIME! Rappers make songs about sleeping with fan’s gf and we all dance to it like idiots. the double standard is so obvious.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:41 am
I think for the first time ever, I can say agree with most of the sentiments in your comment. Lol.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:51 am
there have been several times where you agree with me… but since you don’t want to come off as pro-CHeeKZ every time you say “this is the first and only time I will agree with you”.
You are like the republican you can’t admit that he likes Obama.. just come over to the dark side already Ms Jenkins.
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Black and Trapped in Toronto Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:45 am
“Dudes take girls from other men ALL THE TIME! Rappers make songs about sleeping with fan’s gf and we all dance to it like idiots”
IS EVERYONE PAYING ATTN??
That was like the premise for the entire Dream album…i know, i know he’s not a rapper…but who can tell the diference these days…really.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:56 am
I think Dream is just venting b/c Wayne took his wife. Now he is trying to get back at men by taking our girls through songs.
I’ve seen it from my boys and even myself. You lose a girl to a dude and we WILD out. Smashing everything that moves to make up for the time we wasted being faithful.
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KG Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
shut up cheekz! alicia od’d and you know it. “Mashonda is purely just a jealous ex girl with some bad coochie and/or head skills” hahah your just hating on her at that point and riding for alicia keys (the slide) for who knows why. she’s probably the one thats od lame, annoying, don’t whop, dead fish, corny, cheap etc. mashonda probably was ride or die, down bottom, ruff ryding her way thru her relationship. and alicia was fucking a married man. thats foul.
im calling it now, swizz beatz will move on to the next one. pun intended.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Dog.
I think you understand more than most.
Appreciate the jumpoffs. They are good people. Calling Hoes people with low self esteem or low moral fiber is so 1960s. Welcome to the world of Rap Music and TMZ where giving up the poomps is prefered. Carpe Diem. Seize the Paynus.
Beside AKeys looks like the type that didn’t let the celebrity get to her and still knows how to whop my piece down. Blowjobs in B Major (is there a B Major?)
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KG Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
i didnt call her a hoe. i said what she did was foul. i didnt say she did it before (or will do it again) or even consistent with hoe like behavior. i didnt even talk about her esteem. i can’t image she has low self esteem. im just saying what she did was greasy. sliding / jumping off with someone that’s married is greasy. you gotta be prepared for the consequences and how its going to look. im not gonna take it easy on her because she might be in “love” or because she looks good (she’s overrated to me, i used to think she was smedium, but lately she’s been getting her jada pickett on and getting better with time).
i do appreciate jumpoffs. but you don’t ride for the j, right?! thats absurd. unless they sharing gwap, in that case we can talk about this, baby. word up.
there is a b major chord.
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Why is this an issue? Isn’t Swizz Beats rich? Why doesn’t Mashpotatoes own half of everything he possesses already? Does someone need to give her Juanita Jordan’s number? The quicker she finalizes this, the quicker she can move to ATL, and have them bounce Sheree’s bony ass off of the Real Housewives of Atl so she can spend most of the season dishing dirt on Swizz’s name. Then with her new riches she can hire Eminem to give AK three pumps and a dump, make a record about it and diss Swizz. I thought all industry wives knew this……..
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:50 am
DEAD!
Maybe you need to call her up and offer your services since she obviously has subpar people advising her. (What kind of self-respecting black woman doesn’t have at least one hood-ass friend who will always remind you to get that money?)
This does make me wonder… what does Mashonda want? She wants something — what is it?
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LoudPen Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:10 pm
The Mashedpotatoes comment is just too much. I can’t type cuz there are tears in my eyes from laughing.
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@CheekZ I too agree with pretty much every point you made for once, boo! Let’s make out…
Reina said it best on my blog:
“I think some (women) are just upset that Alicia actually got her man to leave his wife while they’ve been crossing their fingers in vain for such an improbability.”
SO TRUE.
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CHeeKZ thinks these girls never listen Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 11:27 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZmspQFIcw
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I’m glad Mashonda said something. Ppl are saying that she needs to speak to Swizz. I think it is obvious in the letter that she has already spoken to Swizz. She’s probably been able to scream and be angry with Swizz and get over it already. I think she feels that A. Keys is throwing it in her face via twitter. It seems that she is trying to build a relationship with A. Keys because they will have an effect on each other’s lives. Swizz got kids. You dont think the kids are going to be able to pick up on ill will towards their step mom from their mom. Trust me they will and thats gonna taint their relationship with their pops. I think Mashonda is doing the right thing. She took it public so that know A. Keys has some accountability to her fans also
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Peyso
I gotta No-sign. Baby Momma’s need to know their place. They are using the kids as an excuse. A Keys could never meet the kids. Those are issues Swizz is held accountable for. Swizz needs to look out for who is interacting with his kids and what messages they are sending… don’t jump Swizz and holla @ Alicia b/c she is more famous. Take that up with their dad.
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Peyso Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I’m telling you from experience. My momma didnt like my dad’s new gf. You think that didnt rub off on me? You know why i didnt like her, b/c my momma didnt like her. She was nice to me and was very sweet and caring (pause). Ultimately, my pops broke up with her b/c me and my bro was more important but I feel that he may have still wanted to be with her. I think Mashonda is trying to get to a place where they can be in the same room at the same time without having tension so thick that it can cut the air. Trust me, you dont want that either. How do you have a graduation dinner when pops and step pops dont like each other?
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Ok, I don’t know what all of this discussion is about. Swizz is married, and was married when he started messing with AK. And AK knew this. They are both wrong. Period. Point. Blank. And so are the everyday skanks, skeezers, and azzhole husbands who commit adultery. All of this Love mess is immaterial. Wrong is Wrong. If he wanted to be done with his wife, if she wasn’t living up to whatever wifely duty, he could have divorced her a long time ago. B/c that is what you do. Divorce your wife/husband before you enter into relationships with other people. And Mashonda is right in calling AK out.
And Swizz is dirty, too, but people aren’t coming down on him as much b/c we expect men to be trifling liars, who cheat on wives and GF. And that’s some sad shyt. Of course, all men aren’t like this…I’m just using hyperbolic language to make a point….STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HO-SHYT!!!
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Peyso Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I agree with you however I disagree with you. Let’s compare this to Steve Mcnair situation. Everyone came down on that man and he was dead!! Ppl were talking about it was his fault and yadda yadda. I think what makes this case different is that ppl expected more from AK. Ppl dont feel as let down by Swizz as they do AK. Yea Swizz cheated and ppl are mad at him but he didnt bamboozle us into thinking that he was a good man. He may have bamboozled Mashonda but not us. AK told us that she was a good woman. And you know how ppl feel about their music. The hype is not so much about a woman being a home wrecker but about AK being a homewrecker. Ppl arent disappointed that Swizz cheated w/ AK. they are upset that AK was involved in this. I promise you, as many have done before, if this was Trina, or Kim, or Foxy or any woman who has made money not bamboozling us into thinking she was an upstanding woman, this would not be a big deal.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Quite true. Someone said to me yesterday that they thought A. Keys was better than this. She isn’t Mother Theresa and all the humanitarian efforts in the world don’t mean that she’s not going to do something wrong.
Besides, she knows a little something about people ruining a good thing. Lil Mama anyone?
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Reecie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
“The hype is not so much about a woman being a home wrecker but about AK being a home wrecker”
yep. and I think its about her image and HER LOOKS in the outrage. Some folks are mad because he got with a bigger star, and she’s prettier. He cheated and upgraded. sure did.
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What Mashonda (who is like what an “E” celeb) did is cool but this is so junior high why not just get @ AK personally invite her to something chick friendly and while she’s all caught off by getting all buddy buddy then drop the bomb on her-face to face. This nonsense of airing out dirt via the web or any media outlet is lame. I dont care who these celebs sleep with if they put out banging product that I like I buy. This doesnt make me respect this chick who if she wasnt a stripper/vixen or whatever she is would not have ever had the chance to date a super producer such as Swizz. In the grander scheme of things given whats really going on in life these days my reaction is “so what”.
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Peyso Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
She did get at AK personally. She said AK wasnt responding so she took it to the
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“I said it to Luvvie on Twitter and I’ll say it again, women need to lay off Alicia because women have been doing that since the dawn of time. ”
“They do it all the time” has never been a valid excuse to me. Yeah, they do it all the time, and they’re wrong, too. The public outrage ain’t because it’s new, it’s because it’s a public person. I’ont know nothing of the 568,080 nameless other women that have done it before, but I know of Alicia. And if anyone else’s biz were on TV, I’d comment on it then, too.
That said, I’ve always admired Alicia Keys and was a fan of hers from the jump. So, yeah, I was disappointed in her. However, I wasn’t jumping on the “She’s a ho that stole someone else’s man! Let’s all jump on her only” train. I was more disappointed in her with her in mind. Meaning, I thought it showed a lack of self-respect that she needed to go out with someone else’s man. And sure, she may not owe Mashonda anything, but I think she owes herself more. And that goes for any woman creeping with someone else’s man. (Yeah, you guys creeping with someone else’s woman are included here). To me, doing so alleges that you can’t have your own, so you have to dip into someone else’s (who is likely hella vulnerable from problems surrounding their own relationship thus is an easier target than someone unattached).
Come on my sistas, I know the pickins are slimmer than a praying mantis’ leg, but we deserve more than half-a-man. Because best believe, you don’t have all of him if he’s still married or otherwise committed. And also, please believe that his lack o’ morals will not magically change with you.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
that is alot of finger pointing boo boo…
Not every situation is black and white low. A low self esteem woman goes after a selfish man. It unfair that we make the assumption on A.Keys.
We are quick to point out that the man cheated b/c he had low morals and once a cheaters always a cheater. THAT AINT TRUE! People do change. And girls refuse to see some girls don’t take good care of their man, combine that with the fact that men don’t leave until they have the nxt situation already set and you get men cheating. That doesn’t mean Swizz aint really going to be happy with A Keys. She might be a better woman.
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Cheekie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:59 pm
“It unfair that we make the assumption on A.Keys.”
I didn’t say she had low self-esteem, I just meant that she needs to look within herself and ask herself, “Aren’t I worth more than this?”.
I don’t knock someone falling in love because that’s uncontrollable, but the least I could ask for is a man who will try to stay committed to me. I mean, via her Twitters she seems to be in love with him so it’s not like she wants to be his jumpoff…she wants him to commit. It shows a lack of respect for oneself, IMO, that you would settle for a man who is actually committed to someone ELSE. Legally speaking, only, but still. And as I noted above, since she’s in love, she should already know what she’s getting into, a man that doesn’t have the basic morals to commit to a woman.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pm
How is it a lack of respect of myself?
If anything it shows that I put myself in a higher regard. I am happier with someone, I’m not going to let “labels” stop me from being with that someone.
Girls with low self esteem don’t give up the buns or feel bad about what they do. Woman who believe in themselves don’t fear critics or haters. They enjoy their lives the best way they can.
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Cheekie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I guess I’m seeing it from a different perspective. I see it as seeing myself as deserving more than a man who can’t even bother to separate from his wife and fully commit to me. High standards? *KanyeShrug*
I respect myself too much to compete for a man. It’s how I was raised. She can have him.
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Cheekie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
“And girls refuse to see some girls don’t take good care of their man, combine that with the fact that men don’t leave until they have the nxt situation already set and you get men cheating.”
Yeah, this leads to my next point. I get that Keys might make Swizz happy and there is a possibility that he won’t cheat on her, but Imma have to side-eye a man who stays in a marriage just so he can make sure he has someone else locked after it’s all said and done. Man the eff up and request a divorce. Yeah, yeah yeah, easier said than done, but the easy out ain’t always the best way out.
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nyhoop Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Like Ginuwine said, [forget the gender roll reversal]
“You’re creepin’ on him for me,
But you say just trust me.
How am I to know that you won’t do it to me?
You’re tellin’ me it’s different
But what the hell is different
If you cheated on him you’ll do it to me…”
LOL!
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I’m not using it as an excuse, just merely saying that women need to stop acting like Alicia invented snatching dudes. Plus, I’m sure women know one girlfriend that kinda sorta did they same thing, if they haven’t done it themselves, and made excuses for her actions. I get that she’s a celeb, but c’mon now…
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Cheekie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
“I’m not using it as an excuse, just merely saying that women need to stop acting like Alicia invented snatching dudes. Plus, I’m sure women know one girlfriend that kinda sorta did they same thing, if they haven’t done it themselves, and made excuses for her actions. I get that she’s a celeb, but c’mon now…”
I gotcha now, I’m just saying just because there’s public outrage don’t mean we’re not used to it or we haven’t seen it before and I notice that “She ain’t the only one!” is the default response for folks. It’s like telling someone “Don’t cry over someone dying! That ish happens everyday!”. Yeah, we know that, doesn’t make it any less painful.
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N.I.A. see's the writing on the wall.... Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Exactly. smh….
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ASmith Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I made the same point on another blog.
I know if it was my BFF who did what Alicia did, I’d be only mildly disappointed and that’d be because I know I should be moreso than because I’m upset with them…
And since I don’t even know Alicia, the least I can do, I think, is STFU as far as blasting her and expressing my extreme disdain.
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N.I.A. see's the writing on the wall.... Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Absolutely not. I had a friend who was messing around with a married man, she knew he was married, and she didn’t care. Basically, she was like Steve McNair’s J.O.(without the killing, of course). And I checked her on her behavior. We aren’t close anymore, and she has a new married man in her life….
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OrangeStar616 Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
LLS.. @ “I know the pickins are slimmer than a praying mantis’ leg”
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i think that a small part of the current backlash against AKeys is because of her ‘love is beautiful’ tweets…which were just a little insensitive considering the love she is so obviously referring to is with a man who is currently married to someone else. so to me, while i think both she and swizz are wrong here, she irks me just a tiny bit because i think that’s just kinda rude and tacky. just like i thought it was kinda rude and tacky for brad and angelina to be posing pictures of themselves lying all over the sand in africa or whatever while he was still married. i understand that ish happens and sometimes we end up in morally ambiguous situations, but when you flaunt it and appear as though you think adultery is what’s hot in the streets, please don’t be surprised when people are not feeling you.
at the end of the day though, none of this is really any of my business so i don’t like to spend a lot of time talking or thinking about it.
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Mashonda just a hater. Like shortie wasn’t swallowing, then a white girl (her momma is white and she never knew her pops, and she got no ass) scooped her man ad now she man Alicia ain’t do nothing wrong, she acually saw something mashonnannna ain’t … and she swallows.
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Actually as we know, both those statements are completely false. I’m actually surprised no one said that til now…
We Beckys sure do know how to break up happy homes with our head game! =P
But I came back for the tenth time to say… I forgot to tell yall… That pic and the caption is HILARIOUS!!!
*I.Died.*
Carry on.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Yes!!! We were chuckling to ourselves last night.
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Cheekie Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Yeah, I gotta say that picture is too perfect!
If you real and ya know it clap yer hands. lmfao
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Nyela Goodness Reply:
October 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Not gon’ lie…and I’m kinda shamed to admit this…but I didn’t even get it til just NOW. ::sigh:: smh
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I’m so sick of ppl blaming AK! First of all that marriage probably was already broken before she came along or on its way. Everyone has free will and obviously swizz wasn’t happy with his situation at home cuz if he was he wouldn’t have stepped out!they been rockin for 2 years so obviously he really loves AK and vice versa if things weren’t right at home and he started getting his void filled by AK! But IMO what kind of relationship (that will last) can u have that’s built on cheating? If he stepped out on his WIFE 2 rock wit u what makes u think that he won’t step out on you!
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@ peyso well so what if she didn’t respond you don’t lower yourself to get the goal whatever it is in this case. Question what if its some high powered but unknown female exec? The story dies real quick. What she should have done is hold it over her head behind the scenes . But in the end she still got cheated on and as I said who cares, when AK next joint comes out I am givin it the same time as I would have I don’t care for celebs moral codes. Any one who does is stupid you don’t like don’t spend your money on them. Last yea some wmn maybe tite cuz they could never get the same result that only speaks to those wmn level of shallowness. Ppl in power do what AK does all the time (esp politicians and clergy) why don’t I hear the same outrage but ppl judgin someone that will never affect their lives ever!
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I’ll admit I was dissapointed in Alicia when I heard the news but at the same time I am aware that I don’t know the whole story or even half of it so it’s not really my place to judge. And you are so right about no one pointing any fingers at Swizz Beatz… crazy I didn’t even think about doing this myself… after all Alicia really doesn’t owe Mashonda anything… Swizz was the one married to her.
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I love Alicia Keys sooo much! she is the best singer in the world and “no one” is her best song and my favorite!
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I really want to let you know that I am so happy for you finally having a family …. i love you and your songs. It has really change my life…Alicia Keys you are amazing!
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