Top 5 Hip Hop Fails of 2009
The year is more than half way over and hip hop has had a tumultuous 2009 so far. With that said, we couldn’t wait ’til December or January of 2010 to put together our list of hip hop fails. With that being said, we present to you the Top 5 Hip Hop Fails of 2009:
#5 Ace Hood
Lookin' like a chubby lil' wayne. #Fail
Seattle: Who? Oh the dude from Twitter. Yeah… ::Shrugs shoulders::
Slim: I really didn’t know too much about this guy…until he became a trending topic on Twitter. In most cases, becomin’ a trending topic is a good thing. However, as Ace Hood has proved, it can be a major #fail to one’s career. Last week there was a string of #uknowuacehood messages followed by some joke pokin’ fun at the rapper and his less than stellar career. I felt as sorry for this dude as I did for @drakesknee. Nonetheless, a fail. Speaking of Drake…
#4 Drake’s “Best I Ever Had” Video
Sigh...
Slim and Seattle in unison: Worst we ever seen.
Slim: Slow head (pause) shake at Kanye for co-signing this. I like titties just as much as the next man, but damn. Really? You crushed a lot of women’s dreams of a rapper that truly respects and honors women with his music.
Seattle: I like how you’re keeping the ladies in mind Slim, but eff all that. Above all else, this video just had no concept. Which is cool if it’s a regular music video, but you can tell they really tried to make this have some kind of storyline. Well they obviously failed. Basically, this joint was the music video version of “The Happening”.
#3 Nas & Kelis’ Marriage
oo-chie wally wally. oo-chie womp womp.
Seattle: Dude, I didn’t agree to this. C’mon man. I really can’t co-sign to this one. ::Throws on headphones and listens to Nas’ “Life’s A Bitch”.::
Slim: I guess the milk shake went sour. Black love takes a hit once again. As for the lack of a prenup…well, he was screwed either way.
#2 Soulja Boy
The children are not the future.
Slim and Seattle in unison: Youuuuuuuuu SUCK!!!
Seattle: It’s one thing to make bad music, it’s another to dumb down the next generation of Black America. I’m tired of folks saying that he’s just a kid or that he’s getting money. You can get money without messing up the art man. He doesn’t even rap! He just says the hook over and over again in an inaudible voice. It’s like giving Barney a fifth of Jack and telling him to get in the booth. I’d welcome Diddy, Nelly and Mike Jones back into the game if that means I wouldn’t have to listen to this guy.
Slim: We’re doomed.
#1 Black Lackluster Entertainment Television (BET)
(We Refuse to Put the BET Logo on Our Website)
Slim: As I stated a little bit back durin’ the Black in America 2 series, CNN should have done a segment on BET’s struggle to produce quality programmin’. Seems like it’s an adversity they’ve yet to overcome. 2009 has been a particularly sh*tty year for “our” channel.
Seattle: I hate this channel. With a passion. CNN, MTV and even TVOne do a better job at depicting Black Americans in a positive light. The channel run by our own people falls shorter than a midget jumping off the curb. What happened to Teen Summit? What happened to Tavis Smiley? I’d take the mysterious Mama Tigger and her son calling every one his cousin over the crap they have on air now. BET Spring Bling and some bull—t Award Show that can’t decide if they want to be the Image Awards or the Source Awards? My ulcer is acting up as I type so I’ll just end this while I’m ahead. I said it once and I’ll say it again, F**k BET!
Honorable Mentions Go To: Mariah & Eminem’s Beef and subsequent “diss” tracks, Officer Rawse, Anything 50 Cent nowadays, and Pleasure P just because his name is Pleasure P.
Well that’s the top 5 we decided on. Anything we missed? Disagree with the list? Fortunately, there are brighter spots in hip hop. But for today, let’s get the party going…
Hip Hop’s Siskel & Eibert,
Seattle – Wait, so there’s really a rapper named Ace Hood? – Washington
Slim – Somebody’s gotta do it – Jackson
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hmmm charles hamilton fails. he was already a borderline nobody with a lame gimmick BUT then he got punched in the face (sigh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmmAzVAaKPY
and xxl for rating him as someone worth listening to…
if u must talk bad about soulja boy then add gucci and oj to the list. those colored men don’t talk about anything either. at least SB can blame it on his youth.
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Guns & Butter Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:17 am
the charles hammy punch is classic… a definite fail.
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Nicki Sunshine Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:47 am
I was stunned… felt like he would’ve been justified in shaking her a$$. But they strike me as the couple who should not have been together in the first place.
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Ash Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Daaanng! Kudos to him for not going off instinct and decking her…wow…that came outta nowhere!
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Im not a fan of the Charles Hamilton aka The Pink Power Ranger but I have to tip my hat to him for being a gentleman and not hitting her back.
In addition, that girl took advantage of the moment to try and embarass him but it back fired with her emotions getting the best of her. FAIL on her part.
But nonetheless he is an overall FAIL!!! He is also a FAIL squared when he mentioned his album and J Dilla being involved in the same sentence…*DEAD*
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:09 am
I think CH shouldve been on this list too as like a write-in vote, lol.
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Shawn Smith Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I still only like his song Neverland. Good beat.
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I’ll listen to Charles Hamilton when he stops sampling Sonic the Hedgehog
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
LMFAO at this. I really had my co-workers watching me slap my desk and spin around in my chair in laughter.
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Haha…this is a great post.
I think anyone who becomes a trending topic on Twitter is a joke.
Drake is slowly becoming an #epicfail.
that’s all…good night.
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Guns & Butter Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:20 am
How is anyone with a trending topic on twitter a joke?
that shit usually means your pizzling (important)… Michael Jackson was a trending topic for maaaad long…
So was Lebron James in the playoffs.
Speaking of which, the Cleveland Cavaliers (more importantly Mo Williams) deserves a fail for sports… homies just disappeared around Lebron causing him to lose to the Magic. Come to NY, Bron Bron….
GUNSSSSSSSSSSSSandButta
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RightCoastLexSteele, Love Punany Bad Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:37 am
And not to the Knicks…wait til that good ol’ BK team jumps off…
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Fuck the Nets. and Bin Laden
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
bite ya tongue
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LMAO @oochie wally occhie womp womp!!
Co-signage on all counts.
In addition to Drake’s failure of a video, his plan to rerelease a mixtape, for sale, that people have been listening to for over 6 months is a MAJOR fail. Like, why? And if I hear “Best I Ever Had” one mo ‘gain, I will be prompted to kick a midget and steal ice cream from a small child on a hot summer day.
That is all. For now.
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:02 am
“I will be prompted to kick a midget and steal ice cream from a small child on a hot summer day. ”
I’ll stand strongly in your defense if someone were to condemn those actions!
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I co sign all..
I’m still trying to figure out Drake’s appeal.. I haven’t gotten the memo yet.
And I’m sooo guilty of bopping Ace Hood’s Ride or Die song with Trey Songs. lol
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“The channel run by our own people falls shorter than a midget jumping off the curb. What happened to Teen Summit? What happened to Tavis Smiley? I’d take the mysterious Mama Tigger and her son calling every one his cousin over the crap they have on air now”
Actually, this channel hasn’t been run by our own people for a few years now my friend. Its actually owned by the same 2520′s (VIACOM) that own MTV, VH1 and all the other programs that put on the BULLSKIT programming to dumb down Amerikkka as we know it. Now if you think for one instant they care about helping YOUNG BLACK TEENS w/their problems or having highly intellectual black reporters giving unbiased, uplifting news or a black guy named TIGGER bring by RAPPERS who actually represent what real hip-hop is (I so miss the booth), you’re totally setting yourself up for an epic fail. SO FUCC BET! AND FUCC BOB JOHNSON’S GREED TO BECOME A BILLIONAIRE AND SELLING OUR CHANNEL TO THE 2520′S.
Peace in The Mid East
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:23 am
not that anything you are saying is wrong… but I just can’t put this in the hands of the “man.” We are responsible for this mess known as BET.
Viacom does nothing, i repeat nothing, in terms of programming with any of their channels. The top Dog at BET is the closeted homosexual (and best freind to Jay-z) Stephen Hill, head of programming. Hil is in charge of all award shows and specials. Hill has final say on canelling shows. Hill even got Free and AJ fired from BET.
Also getting blame is Deborah Lee. Though she is clearly a blue tooth and I would beat it until she put back BET UNCUT, she has this anti-hip hop campaign with that Hip Hop vs America series. Anti Hip Hop but pro southern rap…
And lastly Reginald Huldin….I had high hopes for Reggie when he got the VP spot at BET. This is the man who director the orginal House Party and Boomerrang and wrote the comic book Black Panther, went to Harvard… and has done nothing … nothing.. but kiss Debra Lee’s behind and try to get in front of the camera. He is also rumored to be downlow and sucked off Eddie Murphy on the set of Boomerrang.
… can anybody find that banned episode of Boondocks about BET? either one feat Cee-LO?
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:27 am
There’s a reason you won the Raw Award.lol. That last little bit about Reginald and Eddie is reckless.
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ChokLitFactory Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:33 am
LOL soooo messy! But hilarious nonetheless…
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N.I.A. naturally Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
i agree with you CheekZ (and Seattle)!! that’s all i wanted to say since i don’t say it often. lol…
but I have to say that part of BET’s dominance is due to the fact that there are people in the community who continue to watch it. The Tiny & Toya debacle is headed to be BET’s highest rated show EVER!! And the show received higher ratings than CNN’s BIA2 among black viewers. Unfortunately, there seems to be a market for trash in our community. Or is it a case of “if we produce it, they will come”…that a lot of folks support BET just because it’s BET?
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that education/social-economic status has a lot to do with BET. I find that the people see how BET is poisonous typically have a college degree and a professional job or are currently in graduate school. That doesn’t make up the greater majority of people, particularly Black people. I’m guessing that a lot of people identify with some of what we perceive as rubbish. Just a thought.
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N.I.A. naturally Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
i agree that education/socioeconomic status is the line in the sand when it comes to BET. However, I think the fact that we don’t have a lot of black shows on television may have something to do with it, too. There may be a lot of people who identify with the BET shows, but if those shows weren’t on the air, would they just stop watching tv all together? I doubt it. Or, if they could choose b/t a Cosby Show and a Tiny & Toya, would they always choose Tiny over Cosby just b/c they can better relate to Tiny? Could a Tiny & Toya even exist if there were anything like the Cosby Show or A Different World on the air now? If any quality black sitcoms, news programming, or talk/roundtable forum show were on the air now?
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I agree with Cheekz, but there’s another point to be made beyond “the man” or the race card. It’s a a creative business. I work for an agency that’s owned by a larger holding company.
They make sure we meet the bottom line, but we hold ourselves to a high creative standard. Because if we’re not doing our job, then our rep plummets and our profits will surely match.
Furthermore, they don’t have control over what work we produce we do. I foresee that being the same for BET. That network is producing sub par creative under their own volition, the holding company (most likely) doesn’t have anything to do with it. They will let them rock with this crap as long as they’re turning a profit.
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Brookland's OWn Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:05 am
“They will let them rock with this crap as long as they’re turning a profit.”
That unfortunately may be very tru, however, that in turn means as long as it turns a profit, it doesn’t matter if its crap which is the really sad part because I’m sure all of those other shows u mentioned along w/any other quality programming which could be produced by BET wouldn’t get the ratings nor ad sponsors to do the shows hence stickin w/the status quo reality show and following the MTV/VH1 script of bum ass shows which get the ratings and sponsors. Almost like they’re caught in a conundrum…
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good list. I’m waiting to see what Tunde has to say about Ace Hood. LMAO.
I think the biggest fail for me this year has to be Kelis & Nas. I really didn’t expect their relationship to make that turn… the BET’s bootleg MJ tribute at the awards was pretty epic too. and yes Charles Hamilton as well..but he’s already disappeared. do still like the ‘brooklyn girls’ song though.
I don’t agree that if you become a trending topic you’re a joke…I mean Amber Rose was yesterday and, “well damn” (no Gucci) is all I can say about that.
Soulja Boy will be on the list every year until he fades into obscurity.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Amber Rose has the GUNS OUT yesterday.
Kanye won. No fail to any bi-sexual woman who fills out a G string that well.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:35 am
exactly. def not a fail. LOL.
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moks Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:39 am
kanye def wins! lol! he has had several great achievements this year including but not limited to making a bunch of former imaginary thugs listen to techno, bagging amber rose AND being the 1st rapper to have two shoe deals with different companies!
p.s. drake wins too
dude can rap…which makes him better than 99% of whats on the radio. THE END
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Who is Ace Hood?
Def. hated the Drake video. I expected so much more. Besides how can I take you seriously when you were Wheelchair Jimmy?
Dang Nas and Kelis. I thought we could make it last forever. I guess forever was only a day.
Lol I’m not going to lie, but I do like the hit singles from Soulja Boy. I learned how to do the little dance one day because I was bored. I blame it on being from the Dirty Dirty South. And yes, Florida is part of the South.
BET should be known as Buffoonery Entertainment Television. That station has been the downfall of the Black race.
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JG* Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am
No Dice. Being from Florida, and living in ATL the only thing keeping me from kidnapping Sbeezy is that he is but a child.
And I’m a huge fan of Drake. Comeback Session was AMAZING! But this year he pissed me off and had too many successive fails. No Bueno.
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Guru autotune fail. Le sigh. Gangstarr is some of my favorite music ever. I am a serious diehard fan. So when I head that “Fastlane” track my heart died a little. I wanted to go find Primo and stage an intervention…
It is also disturbing that so many artists I truly respect took the autotune low road. Just lazy and wack.
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:37 am
We thought about including autotune in the list, but it’s been killing the game for a while, not as long as Soulja Boy, but a while. Good addition tho.
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I co sign most…Rick Ross cd was jive hot, and once again dude should not have lied but what rapper has not lied or exagerated??? going all the way back to the none gangsters of NWA…LOL
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lady_M Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I love Deeper than Rap
I rep Dade County…305…Carol City, Stand Up!
In simpler terms No Fail.
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How can you hate on the “Best I ever had” video?!?! I wrote a whole post on the greatness of that video. I mean … I loved the fact he finally proved he wasn’t soft and gave the people what they wanted … bouncing breasts.
I actually saw Ace Hood perform once at a club. I’ve never seen someone kill a whole dance floor that quick. But … I will say in his defense … his album was like #1 at some point. I know … I know … I was shocked too.
On BET … *sigh* … I don’t like to think about it and just stay away from the channel … at all costs.
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
“How can you hate on the “Best I ever had” video?!?! I wrote a whole post on the greatness of that video. I mean … I loved the fact he finally proved he wasn’t soft and gave the people what they wanted … bouncing breasts.”
Chief, no one is complaining about the breast (lets not forget the splits) but really greatness!?!? Kanye should be put on probation if he is ever behind a camera again. In addition, this is his first video ever!! First impressions are the best impressions and this was far from it…FAIL
-BBW aka “All the way from it…”
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Single Black Male Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Personally, I didn’t like Drake. He was singing in all the songs I was hearing, and he just seemed to be real emotional, although I had friends swearing he was really hip hop to the core.
The video was well shot, had a funny premise, and contradicted the song in a funny way that is characteristic of Kanye.
I will defend my love of the video till the last day!
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I think its safe to keep BET at the #1 spot for the 2010, 2011 and maybe beyond until further notice.
As for #4, Drizzy Drake’s HOT 97 ‘freestyle’ needs to be included as well. The nerve of him fooling us like that!?! I was already sold on him but the “freestyle” WAS in my top 20 of best HOT 97 freestyles of new artist. I mean up there with the State Property moments, LOX and other MCs on their start.
I mean even if it was pre-written at least memorize it and fool me in that manner. Drake’s video & HOT 97 ‘freestyle’ = A Superb FAIL!
-BBW aka ‘All the way from the concrete ashy streets of BK’
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:25 am
dog lets talk about this for a momment…..
You thought Drake’s Hot 97 Freestyle was one of the best ever?
Better than when Cannibus schooled DMX and Nore?
Better than when Hov spit the orginal verse to History back when Kingdom Come first came out?
Better than when Em and Rocye killed it the night the Slim Shady LP drop on the back and forth flow..LIVE ON THE RADIO?
Not only did Drake read from a blackberry, he under delivered his bars Its wasn’t a straight verse, he was just tying lines together. He tried to self auto-tune to fill in a bar. When Flex switched the beat up and he became lost and asked if they could come back? what?!?!?! Wheelchair jimmy couldn’t go in on some Mobb Deep. And than there is the unforgivable. The awkward pauses when him and flex start talking:
“You gotta understand NYC i just came off the road”
“Hold up. You said You’re in the Aston Martin doing Donuts?!!”
“YEAAHH I SAID THAT. And I’ma kill the game and never give it my condolence”
Beyond Fail.
It funny how a horrible station like Hot 97 can provide so many classical hip hop momments just by being in NY…. no other station can match their relevance.
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
You obviously read my comment but didn’t comprehend. I spoke in past tense that #1
#2-Key phrase ‘one of’ not ‘the best ever’.
Until I saw the video and put two and two together it explained why he stopped. I didn’t kno it at the time.
But I think we are in agreement overall. That moment was a FAIL in sooooo many ways. I also think Flex baited him too.
But you’re sooooo right kid!! HOT97 makes history with young gun MCs and their moment to shine with a freestyle. He dropped the ball completely
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
yeah, Wayne I Effin Feel Ya.
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
State Prop IMHO ….. IS THE BEST HOT 97 FREESTYLE SESSION EVE.
YEA I SAID IT
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
G-Unit freestyle in 02/03
DMX NORE and Canibus
Hovs freestyle session when he returned
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’m gonna have a tough time disagreeing but there just too many classic moments….Man the energy from them cats was crazy tho…when they had their sessions!!
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i don’t know what the internet version of being burned at the stake is BUT i expect to find out after i make this comment.
BET is not the downfall of the black race!
Black people are the downfall of the black race!
we can only get mad at the display of ignorance if we are doing something to eradicate the ignorance in our own lives. for some that might mean working as a teacher/lawyer/doctor etc. with our folks. for others that might mean abstaining from shouting out “that’s my song” when slob on my knob or put it in ur mouth comes on in the club….
a TON of black people are entertained by BET…so they keep playing what they are playing.
BET is a problem but the state of Black people is the bigger problem.
i throws no stones though!
ten crack commandments used to be one of my favorite songs growing up and i lived in the suburbs with both of my parents, went to private school, and played outside.
black folks have to make wiser choices about what is entertaining.
(getting off of the soapbox, humming man in the mirror)
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CHeeKZ aka Akinyele Jr Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:31 am
There is nothing wrong with “Put it in your mouth”
That song goes beyond barriers of race my freind.
And it should never be put in the same sentence as Slob on my Knob, I don’t even like alot of spit with my headiepoo.
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Slob on my Knob – top 50 song in hip hop history
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CHeeKZ says "the pic is safe for work" Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
one day I will forgive you for making this statement….
it will not be today sir… it will not be today.
http://fast1.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/cheekz-money/18fd9c05fcc7f580733f442566523517.gif?v=69300
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
LMAO…hahahahaha!!
“one day I will forgive you for making this statement….
it will not be today sir… it will not be today.”
Classic…I got to use this…i’ll make sure to site you for this one….HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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Rox is busy, but... Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I’m in med school, class right now actually, & I don’t REALLY have time to develop my intended argument, but I just wanted to say that urs just isn’t sufficient. I mean I see ur point – TRUE: black ppl need to take accountability for ourselves. BUT it is also true that black ppl w/ power (including BET) need to be setting positive, enriching & stimulating precedents. Media is HUGE!!! I’m sure ur a pretty adept person, so I’ll spare u further discussion of that point, but u can’t deny it’s power & influence on culture, perspective & identity.
A TON of ppl may be entertained by BET, but that’s not an excuse. A TON of these ppl don’t know any better & they shouldn’t be taken advantage of & exploited by their own ppl. We need to educate, not exacerbate. We have to do better in our own lives as well as in our neighborhoods, communities, networks AND (our only, yet still subpar)TV stations to counteract the damage that continues to disparage our ppl.
We need to tackle this “downfall” from all angles & a blind eye can’t be turned on BET. Bet should be a “soapbox” from which we can project representations of ourselves that we’re be PROUD of – & it fails epically. It should be held JUST as accountable for our “state” as our individuals. COME ON PEOPLE.
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Rox is busy, but... Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Dayum… now I have no idea what this professor’s talkin bout. Lamination of the spinal cord? Dayum, dayum, dayum.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
one day I am going to have a back problem…
and you are going to say “let me see it”
and I will say “Hell No Momma”
and you will say “CheekZ i’ma doctor, how are you?”
plz see the above post for the reason why….
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Rox is busy, but... Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
look, if they graduate me, u’ll be fiiiiiiine
u can trust me, I’ll be a doctor.
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Ace Hood looks WAAAAAAAAAAAY better than Lil Wayne, yuxy.
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Cant cosign on 50 cent. He murdered Officer Ricky and put out 1 of the hottest mixtapes in 09 (Forever King)
Officer Ricky shouldve been on this list too and that whole saga.
And this whole Young Money Signing the world should be an honorable mention
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I think we just don’t like 50. I personally haven’t been a big fan since get rich or die tryin. Haven’t heard this mixtape, but do let me know if he avoids rhyming “hood” with “good” in every song.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:23 am
LOLOL all rappers cheat in their lyrics. He has put out some wack stuff but 4ever king is certified.
As far as rhyme schemes, you show me your favorite rapper and ill show you subpar lyrics. Including Shawn, Nasir, Lonnie, Christopher, Tupac, Dwayne, Aubrey or whoever else, lol.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I’m calling your bluff sir.
You can name a pauseable biggie line or an over the top biggie line. But not a wack one. He didn’t have any.
And on the same topic… 50 cent is the worst lyricist to ever sell over ten million (worst then Nelly!). The man has no punchlines. No wordplay. No creativity in any verse sense 50 cent is the future. All hooks, delivery and mic pressence. But I can see through that. War Angel was the first time in his whole career that he ever tried to switch up his rhyme scheme. He was always AABBCC, atleast he TRIED ABBA, wasn’t impressive.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Nelly > 50 cent with lyrics? Your buggin and clearly biased anti curtis.
Listen to 21 questions, many men, or even check his 2002 freesyle catalogue. Im not sayin hes a lyrical machine but you’re wildin now.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I’m on your team Streetz. 50 is better than Nelly. for sure. they both make such different types of music its difficult for me to compare them though…
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Sir, I stand by my statement.
Nelly can spit WHEN HE WANTS TO.
Curtis can not say anything creative.
“And I got so damn cocky, I took that band aid off”
Many Man is a hot song, BUT IT AINT lyrical. Most of the verses don’t even make complete sense:
“My Back on the Wall, now you gona see” what?!?!
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:30 am
you’re comparing a hook vs actual lyrics.
andale andale mami e-ie-i uh ohhhhhhhhhhhhh whats poppin tonite. – hip hop quoteable o_O
“Have a baby by me baby. Be a millionaire I write the check before the baby comes…WHO THE FUK CARES”
come on dude, you got no wins here…lol
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
mediocre at best…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iqrFtdyiI
I have a question? Can you name a single battle the 50 cent won with lyrics and not by the use of skits or Brian Pumper..oh I mean Banks coming in and saving him?
He has been out rapped in every battle going back to Ja Rule…but Jimmy Iovine spends enough money to protect him.
He only got Rick Ross’ baby mom cuz his freestyle was so weak.
Nelly went toe-to-toe with KRS-one (when KRS called HIM out.. he aint win, but he aint use any cheap tricks either).
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
50 Ethered ja Rule with Wanksta, I smell pussy, and every other song that came out. Come on dog what cheap tactic did he pull there? Ja Rule is NO LONGER RELEVANT AND IM FROM QUEENS ADMITTING THAT! In fact, Im closer to hollis than south side! Come on now..
We clearly can’t have this conversation no mo, lol.
Three Ways yall are on some shyt!
CHeeKZ says "the pic is safe for work" Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
You like smack DVDs, don’t you?
50 ended Ja’s career. But he aint do it with lyrics, he did it by turning people against Ja and feeding off the resentment that was building over those wack Murda Inc records.
Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Shockingly I agree with Cheekz, 50 Killed Ja with volume of material, bullying, and creative use of media. Not with lyrics.
Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:23 am
yeah you convinced me with the mixtape cuz I was shaky at first! I agree Officer Ricky couldve been added. 50 gets on my nerves but that beef was hilarious. I’ve liked a good number of 50′s songs over the years, still wouldnt’ consider myself a fan though.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Yeah, I pretty much hate 50 cent. But I will say he murked Ricky Ross. That jerry curl wig and cartoon skit were hilarious. But other than that, boo to him and his wack “I’m so rich and I live in a ginormous house in CT, yet I say I will still murk you in cold blood.” Frontin arse.
But I love Vitamin Water.
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y’all are dead on with this post. re: BET and soulja boy, couldn’t have said it better. young money/cash money should be considered a fail. not even cuz of content, considering most hip-hop put out by younger artists is some shit, but every single one of those niggas are punch line rappers who don’t have a witty flow to back up even they’re better than sub-par lines..sucks for kids growin up who don’t and won’t know shit about hip-hop..plus, the niggas he’s been signing just reflect badly, omarion, bow wow? drake is the best one in the whole label, and he still doesn’t make it past fangirl level, though he doesn’t suck, he’s just..drake.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:34 am
r u serious right now? Past fangirl level? Dude had a crazy underground buzz before best i ever had. Between him, Wale, Kudi, and J.Cole those 4 will dominate hip hop. cmon son son!
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I feel you streetzboo, but Wale, J.Cole, and Kudi, have a different feel than Drake. This summer, all we heard from him is ish we have been hearing for mad long…and all this Best I ever heard ish is watering down that underground edge he had. IMHO, those other cats are gonna leave him in the dust if he doesn’t put out some new and not sing-songy ish very quickly. Please see my comment above about midgets and children.
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matt Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
ok, that’s fair. you’re right, he did have a big buzz, but his mainstream popularity comes from singles..girls love that song.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:43 am
and thats a bad thing? When did mainstream success = lack of lyrical quality?
Tiffy I dig what you’re saying. Honestly its about selling records and furthering the genre which I believe Drake will do. Lets be real is Kudi really RAPPIN?
Drakes Buzz took on a life of its own. If he can deliver he’ll be on super icon status. Think of the other emcees who had a superhuman buzz (before the internets, twitter, illegal d/ls, youtube) and delivered.
Nas, BIG to name 2.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:00 am
people can’t be mad at Aubrey that the Degrassi girls love his songs. I mean, I think Wale and J Cole are lyrically better than dude, but I like him still. Not sure how I really feel about Cudi to be honest….
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I feel you. No Cheekz (see below), I’m not turning on Drake, cuz I like the dude’s flow (pause). I’m challenging him. like DOA.
Operative phrase “If he can deliver…” He needs to live up to the buzz. If he doesn’t, whats the point. He’ll end up like game. 2 mil sold straight out the box and ::cricket cricket:: not much worth mentioning since.
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moks Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
thanks streetz for making it plain. kudi does NOT rap. i thought i was the only one who noticed. he’s cute though, but i don’t think that gives him many points.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 10:52 am
People are turning on Drake Quick.
Happens to every rapper.. welcome to hate city.
I am still waiting for someone to name a good Cudi line… just one. The kid just mumbles through verses. But people want to put him ahead of Drake b/c he aint as pizzling. We hate sucessful people who aren’t us.
XXL lost. the top 5 freshman are:
J Cole
Drake
Wiz Khalifa
XV (DO NOT SLEEP ON THIS DJ ENUFF MIXTAPE!!! PLZ)
Nippsey Hussle.
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doJo Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:01 am
XV has been on my radar since his Planet Squaria mixtape. and last year with his 40 Days & 40 Nights series? he went in.
i fux with him f’real.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
I still gotta herre more from Wiz. I need to hear that mixtape with him and Curren$y. Wiz is cool thou.
Cheekz I cosign with ur post above. ppl will hate on drake. iswhat it is.
I dont think Wale or JCole > Drake lyrically. To me theyre about equal and their albums will be the difference makers for me.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!! Wale and J.Cole are far greater than Drake lyrically. The Warm Up mixtape, again lyrically, is better than Heartbreak Drake and So Far Gone.
I admire Drake for his new approach to hip hop and that’s where he is further along than other members of the freshman class. But line for line, Wale and J.Cole are winning.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Co Sign. And we saw J.Cole perform and he ain’t tear no ACL. ::low blow:: (pause). hahaha
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Tunde Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:12 am
that top 5 freshman class list is bullshit. how can it not include Wale? who in my opinion is better than everyone on that list except for maybe J. Cole. smh.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:19 am
I left Wale off the list to reflect how XXL did a horrible job making the list.
And Wale aint THAT good. Everyone admits that Back to the Feature wasn’t worth the wait. But he is better than Nippsey.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Back to the feature was dope. maybe not worth all the wait but a solid mixtape
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:28 am
true words. My ish is of course Rather be with you ft. J cole and Curren$y. you know I like that nasty songs. LOL. I effs with all of those dudes….
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doJo Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:43 am
J Cole bodied that song. Wale & Curren$y ain’t have a chance lol.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:53 am
all day. LOL
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Back to the Feature wasn’t worth the wait, but A Mixtape About Nothing was that fire.
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
A Mixtape About Nothing is top 12 mixtapes ever
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BLaCk Bruce WaYnE Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
True…way too many tracks but it’s with 9th so it wasn’t a complete fail
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Also Pac Div are the best signed rappers to have no buzz.
It shocking.. they were really the first lyrical hipsters.
I think its cause they don’t sing. But they are dope.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
They’ve been around for years too. Way before the Cool Kids.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
yeah I like their new mixtape….
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getting a late start this morning but i think that this is a good list. first and foremost let me get this off my chest.
fuck that so called rapper ace hood. has anyone listened to his album? i have. i downloaded it and was taken aback by the lack lyrical prowess he possessed. after watching him in that cypher on bet i was like damn maybe there is a florida rapper than can you know…rap. to no avail his album is garbage and he is garbage. the only song i semi-like is that cash flow joint and that’s because of t-pain (which is saying a whole lot). now he’s on some plies shit with trying to put out a new album every 9 months. if jay or nas or even fab can’t do that what makes you think you can? o_0
i think number one on the list should have been florida rappers PERIOD. this includes rick ross, plies, ace hood, trina (well maybe not her. i like her raunchiness), trick daddy and especially Flo Rida (i have no words for how wack he is).
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:00 am
this is what I was waiting for. LMAO.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:06 am
LOL!
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I immediately thought of you when I read his comment.lol.
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charles hamilton’s been takin’ L’s all year. the snuff on camera, him jackin’ black spade’s song and tryna pass it off as his own, him going against all of Detroit when he put Dilla as his executive producer (when not even Mom Dukes knows who he is? disrespectful as hell!), and then he vanishes from the face of the Earth. wasn’t he supposed to have an album out or something? d’ah well.
Asher Roth & all that hype was another fail. i still haven’t heard the album; i just know there was a lot of hype and he didn’t deliver.
Drake’s first live ever TV performance was a big ass fail. Young Money in general that night was a failure. performing “Every Girl” with 10 year olds dancing on the stage? kill yaself.
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co-sign all up and through this list, especially Soulja and BET. Honestly, BET and Soulja Boy are working on a collaborative agreement to destroy the souls of black folk. W.E.B. would be disappointed.
As for Drake, I think he is not really a #fail. He had a following before he hit the mainstream, and not just from girls as a lot of the fellas like to claim. personally, I’m just ready to hear something new from him. i htink he has awesome potential to BIG things in game, he just has to deliver. and i agree with tiff regarding this singing crap. I want rappers to rap, dammit. leave the singing to those who can…by the way, who’s ready for the new R. Kelly?
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Weezy is a part of that collaborative agreement as well.
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Who is Ace Hood?
Who is Drake? What is the best he ever had?
Why should I care?
Nas…I’ll still have your child and you only have to give me 54k a year.
Soulja Boy is….I just don’t know what to say. I feel dumb b/c I saw his face.
BET is Black Evil Television.
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Oh and 50 is the worst rapper ever. He’s even worse than Wayne. I haven’t had an album since Get Rich or Die Tryin. And I regret that…SMH @ myself. And I’m sorry, but, arguing that 50 is a decent rapper b/c of mixtapes is no bueno. The fact of the matter is most mixtapes only reach a limited audience, i.e. diehard fans or ppl. that love mixtapes.
So, in my opinion if you can’t deliver on every album to a broader audience…then, you ain’t got it. A mixtape is supposed to be a hype mix or samples of what you can really do. The album is supposed to be better than the mixtape, so….sorry, but, I’m about a dolla, what the f**k is 50 cents?
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:32 am
GRODT = Classic. Period
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Curtis had bangers too. I can’t say I really messed with The Massacre. I’m starting to sound like a 50 fan. LOL. I’m really not, but the man does have bangers.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
a classic?
why b/c it sold alot?
It doesn’t have good lyrics or concepts….. No classic. Just a bunch of hot hooks and Dre beats.
I don’t know anyone who still listens to GRODT.
We all know people that listen to
Illmatic
Ready to Die
Reasonable Doubt
ATLiens
The Purple Tape
Dr Dre 2001.
Don’t use the word classic if the songs don’t match up to these albums. I might throw Lupe’s the Cool on that list… MIGHT.
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Peyso Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
I still listen to Many Men and Patiently Waiting. Everyday in the gym so HA!
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Many Men, Patiently Waiting, and Heat still get heavy play during my workouts. I’m just sayin.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Three songs MAKE IT A CLASSIC?!!?!
Good and Hood on every record. HE RHYMES GOOD AND HOOD ON EVERY RECORD!
And you want to put that next to The Chronic?!
Ninja is sick.
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Reecie Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I still listen to What Up Gangsta. its one of my personal hype songs. LOL.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I’d call GRODT a classic way before Illmatic. Of course people will disagree, but I just think Nas is QB trash.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I refuse dignify that comment with a quality response.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
shock thread.
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BlueFlame Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
The GRODT album was hot. Everything else after that…GARBAGE! I just wanna smack him sometimes. Negro open ur mouth and annunciate! (low blow? *pause*) He’s just lame to me. And i question his sexuality. Sorry but i do. Somethin aint right! And RCLS i agree about Nas…i was never really feelin him…
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
@ RCLS – You just lost your hip hop card and any respect of hip hop from me
@ Cheekz – do u understand that anywhere i went in the country GRODT was bumpin? I didnt even have to open my cd for 3 MONTHS!
What up gangsta
Heat
Many Men
21 Questions
Patiently Waiting
IN DA CLUB
P.I.M.P
Back Down
Wanksta
Poor Lil Rich
Like My Style ( I let my watch talk 4 me..)
Ur fuckin crazy. GRODT can be played front to back without skippin! CLASSIC
Im done with 3ways and hip hop talk!
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
My field of expertise is in reggae anyway. But by now you should be used to my unadulterated allegience to ignorance. Trust, I’m catching hell offline for these statements, but I stand them. F*ck nas. I tried listening to Illmatic and got a headache.
And I kinda feel like I can’t lose my hip hop card because as a reggae head and full blooded West Indian, I’m of the KNOWLEDGE that reggae birthed hip-hop. You may not think your dad is cool anymore, but he’s still yo pappy. Thank you and Good Day.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
You know who ya bloodclot fuk wit? A blog in yo face and thats all you can come up with?
Zeeen. Respect. Soon come. Cha.
A Dutty Yea!
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
LOL…respect still my youth! Mi jus feel seh di bway Nas ah one likkle idiot fool fool bway and ‘im need fi go fold up somewhe
But to re-emphasize my earlier point…F*ck Nas.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
mY YOUT! Who di WICKIDESSS Emcee in di bloodcleet US? A NASIR JONES!!!
Listen to a big tune so:
“Fake thug no love him get a slug”
***GUNSHOT********
Him a go down top TREE Emcee all time! Memba mi tell yuh dat!
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
He probably will and I still won’t like him, and I’ll be at the greatest emcee of all time banquet p*ssin on the Illmatic album cover. I think he sucks so bad, I won’t even break down trees on that album cover, and having your cd used as a weed plate is the worst form of disrespect ever.
I’ll be over here rinsin some tune off of Voice of Jamaica.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I let my watch talk for me
My ring talk for me
My wrist talk for me
blame what up homey.
………. yeah a classic. Man how could I sleep on that. That is so much better than ATLiens or Reasonable Doubt. How could I be so silly. Blame what up homey… I mean that line changed my life. He really connected with the feeling of a gun when he says BLAME… he aint saying it just to say it. It blame.. you know what I’m saying. Like Blame.. you know how deep that is. Blame… than he hits you with something to think about…. “What up homey?” Now before you judge him ask yourself one question… after BLAME… what is really up? Homey?
http://fast1.onesite.com/community.allhiphop.com/user/cheekz-money/8fb54626ec387c2970a10e03568d3e00.gif?v=82000
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
It’s Blam. I think it’s actually Blam. I’ll double check, but I think it’s Blam.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
thank u RCLS
Blam. What up Homey.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Trouble Maker Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
I don’t know what a proper response that would be.
Blam! I’m good.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I may just walk around my office saying “BLAM!”
“What’s up Seattle?” – “BLAM!!!”
“Can you handle this…” – “BLAM!!!”
“Seattle you were late yesterday…” – “BLAM!!!”
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“oo-chie wally wally. oo-chie womp womp.”
*cracking up*
Good list.
Especially Soulja Boy. UGH. He pretty much ruined my year when my niece told me that he shares my birthday. YES, that is an eff-my-life status:
I have the same B-day as Soulja Boy. FML.
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I so fell off on hip hop this year..but I’ll still give this a go:
Khaled & others were really pushing for Ace. I’m surprised he got another go with album #2. I bumped some tracks, but nothing stuck. I did like his song with Jazmine Sullivan tho – did that one pop off?
As for Drake…I can’t say nothing bad b/c he has T.dot (aka all of Canada) on his shoulders. Its like dissin’ Jesus in a Cathedral or something. But yes, that video was foolish. And laugh if you want, but Degrassi is a staple in every Canadian household. JIMMY!!
LoL @oochie womp womp. Indeed! I thought these two were in it to win it! Oh well…
Didn’t Soulja boy have a breakdown on Twitter not too long ago? My fondest memories of SB are his spirited performance at the BET Awards and watching his Bird Walk video with the sound off (too funny, you must try it!)
And CheekZ gave the best commentary on the BET situation.
That is all.
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I explained very clearly why Drake’s “The Best I ever Had Video” was ingenius. http://singlesisterspeak.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/our-turn-do-you-want-to-be-the-effin-best/
Soulja Boy really aint that bad. He’s just dumb like the 17yo kids that walk around harlem. He aint claiming to make classics, I respect that.
Please stop all of the hate on Wale.
BET sucks, get over it.
J. Cole is nice too.
Currency is underrated.
Shut your mouth when you’re talking to me
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
I heart that movie.
And you Peyso.
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ChokLitFactory Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I co-sign on Curren$y…can I mention Lil Boosie as well? Or will I be stoned for that one…?
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Where was Flo-Rida on this list????? He is not a lyricist. “In the ay-irrr ay-irrr!” Like really??? GTFOWTS! I really just can’t take a lot of rap seriously anymore. I love(d) Drake…but Young Money is gonna ruin him.
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117 by lunch… I keep telling you. Seattle should do an spin off hip hop only blog.
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Today has been a most enlightening discussion on hip-hop. good job!! and I would so read a hip-hop only blog. I may not comment, but I would definitely read it….
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Every time I see/hear anything Soulja Boy related, I put on a sad face. The man shouted out slave masters. Nuff said.
#uknowuacehood when this is the only list you’ll ever rank in the top 5 on.
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What’s good? I’m a big fan of your blog and couldn’t agree more, especially when it comes to Soulja Boy.
To all those who posted their version of the Superman dance on youtube, hang your head in shame and pray to the Hip Hop gods for forgiveness…which will never come!
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