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NFL Players Must Like Getting Locked Up
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Miss Jenkins: Last week Thursday, the news about Plaxico Burress’s sentence was announced. For those of us living under a rock, on November 28, 2008, Plaxico shot himself in the leg with a gun he was carrying illegally and stupidly in the waist band of his sweats. Its funny how the timing worked out because PETA’s boo, Michael Vick, was recently signed to the Philadelphia Eagles. Both of these sexy men, prior to their legal drama, were huge assets to their teams. Yet both did stupid things: Vick helped fund a dog fighting operation; Plaxico shot himself in the leg. Vick served a little under 2 years; Plaxico got sentenced to 2 years and will likely serve a little less than that. Thinking about the huge differences in the crimes, I got ta thankin: Do these very different crimes warrent essentially the same punishment?
Slim: I gotta admit Miss Jenkins. I think Plaxico doin’ the Cheddar Bob to himself (If you haven’t seen that movie, jump off a bridge) was more than enough punishment for his stupidity. Bein’ the butt of tons of jokes and havin’ to look at the remnants of the bullet hole for the rest of his life is reminder enough that he ODed. Unfortunately for him, his offense came in a city that’s really tryin’ to crack down on gun control. In regards to your question, I don’t necessarily think these 2 crimes deserve the same punishment. From what I’ve gathered though, packin’ heat appears to be common for athletes.
Miss Jenkins: True. And I respect the great City of New York for cracking down with tough gun laws, but I’m not sure he deserves 2 years in the bing. He wasn’t totting the gun with the intent to harm, rob, or gun buck someone just because he felt like being a big bad negro. He was preparing to protect himself in case something jumped off. His teammate, Steve Smith, had been robbed a few days before at gun point. In June, Javon Walker (Raiders) was found knocked out after getting robbed. And true, it was almost a year before Sean Taylor (RIP) was killed in his own home, but still. So yeah, shooting yourself in the leg is a bonehead move, but I can see why he was packing. As for Mike Vick…well…I can’t really rationalize his actions. Can you, Slim?
Slim: Not really. Just stupidity. Glad to see him back in the NFL though. To some degree, I think he would’ve been better off if he got caught carryin’ a gun…in a state other than NY. I think this goes beyond the realm of football. It makes sense that they’d be in so much more trouble though, considerin’ that football teams carry like 40-50 people or sumthin’ like that. That’s a bit different than a basketball team that carries 14 people or a baseball team where they carry like 20. Another way to think of it, basketball players smoke weed, football players carry guns, and baseball players take steroids and drink & drive. Yeah, that sounds about right. NFL players just seem to draw the shortest stick in the criminal justice system.
Miss Jenkins: Maybe its because they are big Black men a.k.a. America’s greatest fear and my greatest weakness. I can’t help but think that there are players in all sports who have run ins with the law all the time and who don’t deal with the persecution these two guys have. Its always the Pacman’s, Vick’s, or Bonds’ that get plastered on the nightly news for their illegal acts. That’s a little imbalanced and unfair to me.
Good people, do you think race plays a role in how athletes get treated by the media and court system? Do you think Vick and Plaxico deserved the punishments they got? Was one more fair than the other? Are NFL players more likely to cause trouble than other athletes? Or are they more likely to get caught and made out to look like bad guys? What do yall think?
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well, let’s compare Vick’s and Burris’ crime to the Dante Stallworth’s crime. Stallworth killed someone, an actual person. not a dog, and he didn’t shoot himself, either. But Dante walked out of there serving 24 days…not months, days. There is no way a man should serve nearly 2 years for dog fighting, and another man serve 24 days for killing a man while driving drunk. Of course, Stallworth lacked the requisite intent for a murder charge, and such a charge would be ludicrous, but Stallworth and countless others serve as proof that sentencing laws in this country need to change so that people receive harsher sentences for hurting and killing actual people than they receive when they kill dogs. And don’t get me started on the inequitable drug laws in this country.
as for the race issue, of course race plays a role. It plays the same role for athletes as it does for you and me. but. i’ll get into this more after i’ve had my requisite hours of sleep. as you can see from my name, i haven’t been sleeping well.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:45 am
“There is no way a man should serve nearly 2 years for dog fighting, and another man serve 24 days for killing a man while driving drunk.”
Yeah, I don’t quite get that either…
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:38 am
I think the sentencing is more of a jurisdictional issue than anything else. Vick was messin with them fed boys and like Tunde noted, his major crime was operating a gambling ring not necessarily cruelty to animals. Plax got a raw deal because Bloomberg decided to publicly drop the hammer on dude. Had he not come out publicly against Burress, he woulda been good. Think back a few years ago to Jamal Williams (I think that’s his name) that got caught out there selling dope…he had served his time and came home just in time to make training camp. In Stallworth’s case, the laws on the Florida books just suck. Do you know if you get caught hittin ya shorty from the back in FL, THAT’S A CRIME?
And speaking of dumb states w/ dumb laws, I recently heard that HAPPY HOUR is ILLEGAL in Crappachusetts. Like seriously? From what I understand they can still have little afterwork events, but it can’t be called HAPPY HOUR. Who in their right minds legislates HAPPINESS, especially HAPPINESS that involves BOOZE??? Sign my petition, let’s sell new england to canada.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Jamal Lewis. He was with the Ravens at the time…
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:04 am
All these Jamals sound the same to me.
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Man I could right a books on the problems black athletics face becoming famous. There is a huge cultural divide between black athletics and main street society that is leading to all these problems with relatively good guys (Pacman, Burress, and Vick all had clean records before they became millionaires).
When you listen to sports talk radio you aren’t dealing with the brightest sociologist. They’re morons who just blame everything on the athletes because they are jealous and want to feel important. These people influence the Commissioner and ESPN in what they cover.
Case in point… Ben R (that last name is too hard and its 2 am sorry), QB for the Steelers. Man gets accused of rape and ESPN doesn’t even cover it! Kobe gets accused of rape its the first story every time a motion is filed.
Whenever a black athlete has a problem, go to ESPN’s conversation room and all you hear is “Another case of black athletics blah blah blah…. We pay them so much money….. Why can’t they just blah… They are role models. Brett Favre never..”
What they forget to mention was that Brett was an alcoholic who was addicted to pain killers early in his career.
Plax explained his story well on E:60 (with Cornell Alum Jeremy Schapp, POW). He is not getting in trouble for the gun, or the gun going off. He is in trouble b/c the thing wasn’t registered. From what I was told, in NYC most people in NYC who get caught with an unregistered weapon and NO criminal record or intent to due a crime are allowed to plea out to an even lesser offense than the one they gave Plax. They didn’t HAVE to charge Plax with that 3-15 charge, Bloomberg wanted to make a statement.. and to me that is not justice. I don’t believe in making examples and I don’t believe in giving special treatment. I believe in fair.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:10 am
“They didn’t HAVE to charge Plax with that 3-15 charge, Bloomberg wanted to make a statement.. and to me that is not justice. I don’t believe in making examples and I don’t believe in giving special treatment. I believe in fair.”
I believe in fair to, but the problem with being a celeb in any venue is that people (rightly or wrongly so) hold them to higher standards. Yeah they are people subject to the whims of their own stupidity too, but when millions of people are watching, imagine what hell NYC would have caught for letting a Black man with a gun slide. Not saying its right…
And I didn’t even know that Big Ben got accused of rape…I now have another reason to dislike him…
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:38 am
@Tiff
They dont even apply that “mandatory minimum” across the board with celebs, black or white. The issue is that the Mayor got involved and it became a political issue. He should’ve taken the 3 month offer when he had the chance.
Also, Big Ben isnt a good example of white favor b/c the police werent even investigating the accusation (Kobe) nor had it been brought up in court documents (Wade). People were jumping all over ESPN for nothing.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:23 am
the police weren’t investigating b/c it got covered up by the casino.
I’m not saying Ben took the snatch, but Kobe went through hell when we all Kobe aint take nothing… yet Ben skates free. Even Pentino took it harder (pause) than Ben, and there was no charges filed.
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Doesnt really matter why the police werent involved in Ben’s case. Also, they were already involved in the Pitino case due to the blackmail charges.
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Anna Nimous Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Cheekz, show me the grinning girl in the wheelchair come Monday, and I will co-sign on the Cannon. Matter of fact, I’ll fill out your registration paperwork and run it down to the courthouse myself. Weapons of mass destuction such as you describe need to be tracked and heavily guarded, lol.
To the matter at hand:
I have a hard time understanding this. I can’t relate. We all have that little “spidey sense” tingle when we’re about to engage in something dumb. Do they not think to themselves, “Man, I’ve sure got a lot to lose.” or “I wonder, if this comes to light will anyone be in trouble but me?” or “I make too much money to mess around with an illegal dog fighting ring/loaded and unsecured shotgun/fast car while drunk/drunken 19 yr old with 3 other dudes “evidence” in her pants/transvestite hooker/etc. ” Really – you can’t avoid that? There was some article outlining the main ways that pro athletes are parted with their money (some ridiculous percentage declare bankruptcy within years of leaving the league) and most of the reasons are based on pure stupidity. But as the old saying goes, “A fool and his money are easily parted.” I guess the same goes for a fool and his freedom.
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I think that both crimes deserved the punishment they got. Although I feel that Plaxico should have gotten a lesser term, its fair because he could have gotten the mandatory 3 years.
People tend to forget that Vick didn’t go to jail for fighting dogs (n*iggas in the hood have been fighting dogs forever). He went to jail for funding and operating an interstate gambling ring (which is a federal offense). Had he just stuck to fighting, buying and selling dogs in Va, he prob wouldn’t have gone to jail. He might have been heavily frowned upon or even suspended by No Fun League (NFL) but he would have been a free man.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:08 am
“He went to jail for funding and operating an interstate gambling ring (which is a federal offense).”
I think a lot of folks, even myself, fail to realize or get it clouded in the mix w/ everything else that was put out there. You’re right, he should have just stuck to doin it in VA, cuz if I remember correctly when this all first broke he was cool up until the feds got involved.
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:40 am
State got involved first. Feds took the case over from them.
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Reecie Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:21 am
yeah but the state was not gonna send that man to jail for 2 years if at all (my personal opinion) the story broke in VA long before it made national attention–when the feds and PETA got involved and you know where it went from there….
to answer the question, of course race plays a factor. I think in the Stallworth’s case his lenient charge had a lot to do with his show of remorse, the fact that he called the police immediately after it happened, etc. I’m curious to how $$ much he settled with the family though….
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:35 am
“yeah but the state was not gonna send that man to jail for 2 years if at all (my personal opinion) the story broke in VA long before it made national attention–when the feds and PETA got involved and you know where it went from there….”
Didnt mean to imply that they were. Also, the feds didnt ask for Vick to get 2 years either. Judge made an example of him.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I wanna work for the feds.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I got you homie.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am
::Seattle begins to hide all the contraband in his crib::
Oh and remind me to stay out of Florida. I’ll end up serving a life sentence.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Rawse… is that you?
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Good people, do you think race plays a role in how athletes get treated by the media and court system? Of course race played a role in how athletes get treated by the media and court system. Think about it, the only time you ever hear about any of the black athletes is when they do something positive on the field, negative on the field or negative off the field. Now why is that you ask? Well being that WE DON’T OWN SHIT as Black people (at least not much), including any media outlets, the folks at the top will continue to show how black men are only good for a few things which include SPORTS and Crime.
Now we all know killing dogs or carrying gats is illegal in most places in this country, however there’s nobody arresting the thousands of white folks who annually hunt deer, moose, squirrel and whatever else they can with their gats. All they have to do is get it licensed!? Hmm… Sound a lil shaky? Well if it does that’s probably because it is. The crimes are crimes, but because we don’t have control of the outlets to share different angles/view points of these athletes situation nor people who represent them, that look like them and know their situation better, if something gets magnified, the flames only grow.
I’m still tired and sleepy, so i’ll go have my morning meeting n breakfast n come back to complete my thoughts later…
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Aaahh yes, black male athletes: my favorite passtime – I mean – subject. =)
Well being that I live in texas now… I say: plax had a right to bare arms, peta can kiss my glass, and rihanna deserved what she got (threw that in there). When I don’t make his eggs how he wants them, I expect my man to whoop my @$$.
But being that they’re all black men (and are stealing all our white women with their big slings), lock em all up and throw away the key!! Yeehaw!! Go cowboys!
*shudders*
I don’t have an opinion. Celebrities and athletes have the good life and if they’re held to a higher standard to prove a point (that black ppl should know their place), so be it. Life’s not fair.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
::taps the mic::
Attention all. Be advised. There is some sarcasm in this comment. Thank you.
::walks away slowly hoping everyone got the message::
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:57 am
We got mics in this piece? Where the f*ck is my mic?
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Reina Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am
You are officially my favorite commenter.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Si te cojo, te mojo.
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I feel that its interesting that all of a sudden, we are making examples out of these people…
If I PUBLICLY, shot myself in the leg, you don’t need to send me to jail for rehabilitation. I already want to die of embarassement and I will probably never touch another piece in my life.
I can’t believe dude never heard of the safety… Or that he’s walking around like a 1970′s undercover police officer. Seriously? Sweatpants? C’MON! o_O
Anyhoo… All this in addition to Chris Brown’s sentence… He’s stuck in VA for 5 years. Its like all these judges are out to ruin people’s lives. I have never heard of such a ruling for Domestic Violence and clearly, the kid has Anger Management issues.
So, I’m in the camp that this is all racially motivated. Since they were able to convict OJ with something, it feels like the legal system is trying to knock successful Black Men down a peg.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Eh. OJ has had a lot to with his own demise…
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Plax said he wasnt wearing sweatpants. I feel you on OJ tho. He’s obviously the “trigger” to this whole thing. Plus, that Vegas case was a sham and people would have to be fools to not know it.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Plax just said that to save himself further embarrassment. Athletes don’t dress up unless required to i.e. he wore sweats to the club. hahah
And wait. Tell me more about this Vegas sham…please
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
LOL. They charged OJ with kidnapping and all this other shit. If that doesnt set off people’s bullshit meter, nothing will. That whole case was a joke. But no one cared b/c it was OJ.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Yeah. Sadly he made himself a joke when he had the nerve to try to publish a book about how he would have killed Nicole if he had actually done it. Right.
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Nyela Goodness Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Chris Brown should be in jail.
Tis all.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I dunno. That boy needs counseling more than anything else. His skinny light skinned self wouldn’t last 2 days in there…
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
In the Jeremy Schapp interview, Plax said he was wearing black jeans and a sweat shirt. And they had security video.
Also if Chris Brown should go to jail, than Rhianna should be executed…. or atleast have to be gangbanged as a punishment.
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Wowowowowowow!
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Terri **I find that comment to be crass and degrading** Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
You are too foul for words.
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Alright now. That’s a little much.
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CHeeKZ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
“I will probably never touch another piece in my life.”
PAUSE!
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
lol @ the pausable.
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***Looking for the highest bridge to jump off because I have not seen the movie***
I am taking a correctional class right now and yesterday we studied the statistics of black men in jail, which were overwhelming considering they are not the dominate race in the country.
Race definitely has an effect on how athletes (or blacks as a whole) are treated in the legal system.
I do not think Micheal Vick deserved his time- he should have received probation or some sort of other rehabilitation for gambling.
Plaxico deserved what he got because of what COULD have happened. He shot himself in the leg but what would have happened if he wasn’t him that was accidently shot?
I don’t know if its that they are more likely to get caught but I do think they are idiots…. All of the reasons they’ve been locked up could have been prevented!!!!!!
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:03 am
You need to find the movie and watch it this weekend just because. I’ll extend your bridge jump a week out to give you time to be exonerated of all charges.
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Nicki Sunshine Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:26 am
LOL… I’ll do that just for you and my life, Slim.
Delete all I just said. I just googled and found out the movie was exactly 8 mile. lol. I’ve seen that like ten thousand times….
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My issues with the Plax case arent just that he didnt deserve what he got, but that the prosecutors know he didnt deserve what he got, and were forced to give him that amount of time due to pressure from the Mayor. Fact of the matter is, you dont charge Plax for “what could have happened”…and they didnt in this case either. They charged him for having an unregistered gun. 2 years…for not having the correct paperwork done. No intent, no victim (aside from himself), no priors shouldnt equal 2 years.
I find it odd that people seem to care about how much time Vick got now that he’s out. Where was all that support when he was being charged even more than the prosecution even asked for?
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Celebrity is the issue and deterrence is the point at hand. Judges want regular folks to see that if these celebrities aren’t getting away with crimes then you won’t either, so don’t even try it.
At the same time, race trumps celebrity.
Do they deserve their respective punishments? Yes, they do, especially that fool Plaxico. Who did he think he was? I don’t care if you shot yourself. That is not punishment enough. How many times have I heard of guns going off in some BK neighborhood and a stray bullet hitting an innocent? I don’t want to go to a club and have to worry about coming out with bullet holes in my new handbag.
They should’ve never given those niggas money.
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Reecie Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
“Celebrity is the issue and deterrence is the point at hand. Judges want regular folks to see that if these celebrities aren’t getting away with crimes then you won’t either, so don’t even try it.
At the same time, race trumps celebrity”
yep.
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I have a slight problem with people using the term “being made an example of.” The first Negro they locked up for doing nothing but standing next to a White woman was the example. The rest of this is just foolishness.
While I agree the legal system is harder on Black men than any other race or ethnicity, it’s not new news. It’s been this way since we were on the Middle Passage.
Athletes get paid. Really really paid. I can understand and sympathize with folks who don’t have money and do what they have to do to feed their families. That’s what America and its high society was built on (R.I.P. Ted Kennedy). However, I can’t sympathize with people who do dumb stuff. And keeping a gun in the waist band of your sweats or running an interstate gambling ring is some dumb shit.
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insomN.I.A. Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:28 am
And keeping a gun in the waist band of your sweats or running an interstate gambling ring is some dumb shit.
very dumb
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Miss Jenkins Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:32 am
It may not be new news…but its news none the less. Cuz it ain’t new, should we care about it less?
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Oh, I said that in reference to how folks are acting surprised that a Black dude got treated unfairly by the government. This isn’t the first time and it isn’t going to be the last.
We should care, but at the same time Black folks need to know when to pick their battles. Rallying behind the dude who carried an unregistered gun to a club full of people in his sweatpants doesn’t seem fruitful.
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
The only person who I would have considered it acceptable to “make an example out of” was Donte’ Stallworth. His case was a very teachable moment about the dangers of drunk driving and perhaps a stiffer penalty might have sent a tough message.
Son got a month.
Vick and Plax did not need to be made examples of. Even though he was stupid to do it, Miss Jenkins touched on relevant reasons why it made sense for Plax to strap up. And as for Vick, after all the hoopla, I still don’t care about dog-fighting, nor does the person in North Carolina feeding his pit raw meat. Example fail.
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insomN.I.A. Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:28 am
exactly. MADD should have been all over that.
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I’m pretty sure they got some bread in Stallworth’s undisclosed settlement w/ the fam.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:45 am
“The only person who I would have considered it acceptable to “make an example out of” was Donte’ Stallworth. His case was a very teachable moment about the dangers of drunk driving and perhaps a stiffer penalty might have sent a tough message.”
This!
Point well made. My issue is that these moves were more politically motivated. Race is always an issue but when Bloomberg gets involved its a $$$ issue and a politics issue.
Vick $$$ too
what they did was stupid. When you break the fed code you do time. Plax had no record prior and I think had he copped better lawyers, he couldve did a 3 month bid and been strizzle. No one in NYC was trippin off the “danger implied by him bringin a gat in the club” thats a day in the life for blacks who hit the club scene!
Every1 agrees Plax was stupid, he couldve hurt some1 but he didnt (facts) and 2 years is harsh. He shouldve registered the shyt though. The Security in the club was stupid for letting him thru with that. Celeb or not they shouldve just held the gun down for him and gave it back when he left.
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Terri Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
“No one in NYC was trippin off the “danger implied by him bringin a gat in the club” thats a day in the life for blacks who hit the club scene!”
I live in NYC and I was tripping. I’m not trying to hear shots ring out while I’m getting a vodka tonic at the bar. He should’ve also paid a fine for disturbing the peace.
“The Security in the club was stupid for letting him thru with that. Celeb or not they shouldve just held the gun down for him and gave it back when he left.”
I doubt this ever happens. I’ve been to ‘clubs’ on Nostrand Ave in BK and they will take away your nail clipper off your key chain before they let you in their club; and trust you ain’t getting a damn thing back come the end of the night.
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Peyso Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Actually holdin someone’s gun happens alot. I used to bounce and we would hold ppl’s guns all the time. I just hope that at this age we dont frequent those clubs and types of parties
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Terri Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ain’t that a blip.
An honest citizen gets her nail clipper taken away, while gangbangers have their guns held for the evening.
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
“I live in NYC and I was tripping. I’m not trying to hear shots ring out while I’m getting a vodka tonic at the bar. He should’ve also paid a fine for disturbing the peace.”
But if we’re to believe Plax’s account of the story, not a single person in the club heard the gun go off, or even knew he was shot. So, he didn’t actually disturb any peace.
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn’t shoot himself, we never hear about this whole thing and Plax is in training camp watching Eli drool in practice. Don’t pretend he doesn’t look like a drooler. Pause if necessary.
It’s just not fair to look back on an incident and charge someone for the worst that could have happened. What he did deserved punishment, but not 2 years because the city decided to set some example.
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Terri Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Stop saying the mayor was trying to set an example.
Dude had an illegal hand gun and yes, even if he didn’t disturb the peace, he recklessly endangered the public.
Do you think people who carry illegal handguns should get probation? So they can then say, “okay next time, I’ll make sure I don’t get caught.” No, they should be punished to the full extent of the law, serve time and then say, “okay next time I’ll make sure I don’t get caught.”
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RightCoastLexSteele, Rubber Band Man Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Probably not, but since the gun was already registered in the state he bought it in, some consideration should have been given to that fact.
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Peyso Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Why should I stop saying the mayor was trying to set an example, when he specifically said it. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/01/2008-12-01_mayor_bloomberg_fuming_over_plaxico_shoo-3.html
No One is saying that he didnt deserve to go to jail but they pursued this more than they would have anyone else and by definition that isnt justice
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Terri Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I didn’t know he was so explicit about his views on the case. I thought you were only discrediting the sentence by saying Bloomberg had it out for him. I’ll give you that part: the Mayor is a jerk.
With that being said, I still have no remorse for Plaxico. The facts still remain: he did a crime (possession of an illegal handgun and reckless endangerment) and he was punished for those crimes.
Like someone wrote in that post, if the gun was so necessary he would’ve made sure the registration didn’t expire.
Reecie Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I want to say they (MADD) refused to accept his donation to the organization–which was part of sentence.
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Wow they did? Did they give a reason for that?
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Reecie Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
because of the lenient sentence. the rep from the org was on good morning america a couple months ago. I found this article:
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/madd-doesnt-want-donte-stallworths-money/
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Exactly. This is their lane!
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Making an example out of someone in court really doesnt EVER work. Prosecutors just do it so they can pat each other on the back and give each other promotions. Its not to “serve a public good.”
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
August 27th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Probably not, but since the gun was already registered in the state he bought it in, some consideration should have been given to that fact.
THIS!!
His gun wasnt “illegal” NYC gun laws suck. Bloomberg is my spec, but he wilded out on this shyt.
Bouncers DO take guns, and u forgot Plax is a CELEBRITY! He caught the game winnin TD in the SuperBowl u dont think these bouncin ninjas would holf a gun for him? Shyt theyd carry his weed if he asked!
These NFL players are getting killed and robbed every other day, yet when they protect themselves we call them stupid? The stupidest thing he did was not put the safety on the gun.
PPl walk with concealed firearms daily. Legal and illegal. lets nto act naive
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Seattle Washington Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
If dude wants to protect himself, that’s cool. But if you’re a high profile a celeb, there’s two things you need to do so the government doesn’t throw you in jail and you lose your endorsements:
1.) Register the firearm. No excuse for that.
or
2.) Let the crew carry the heat. You got a friend that carries the weed, you got a friend that gives you the line up, let the dude with his hands free handle the ya mean.
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Streetztalk Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Gun was registered just not in NY
and he left the weed carriers home and was rollin with AP…. he not tryn to mess with the heat (no MIA)
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Terri Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Of course people carry guns, but everyone in NY knows the consequences: 3 years. You want to carry an unregistered gun (I might be wrong, but I read the gun was only registered in FL and the registration expired), know that in the event that you get caught you will be punished.
I know if I was to kick someone in the ass I might get slap, so if I kick you and get slap I’m not going to then scream “this is an injustice!”
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Good morning folks!! ok, now that the pleasantries are out of the way…
I will say that many athletes are assholes, and believe they can do whatever they want to do, and get away with it. Because that’s what they’ve been doing since a young age. There have always been people who have given them what they want, allowed them to do what they want, and then turn away so as not to see what they are doing as long as the athlete continues to help the team win and bring home championships.
Now, none of this matters when it comes to the laws in this country. Unfortunately, the justice system is set up to be against the poor and racial minorities. And if you’re poor and a racial minority, then you’re screwed. In the case of a lot of these athletes who commit crimes, they are just stupid. You are making millions, and blessed with amazing talent, why are you funding an interstate gambling ring? Why haven’t you registered your gun? Why not hire bodyguards? Why are you still kicking it with your broke ass criminal friends and relatives? Why are you a drug dealer? No, seriously, why are you an NFL RB setting up a drug deal?
I think these fools should have been punished, and the sentences they received are probably nothing compared to what someone without the means and the celebrity would have received. Race definitely plays a factor, but so does class.
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It’s funny that the NFL players go to jail the most b/c they have the most extensive and intensive behavior classes during your rookie year. They’re also one of the few leagues that give a league wide personality test. I know this b/c I’m
a washed upformer aspiring athlete.Plaxico deserves to go to jail. Not for shooting himself or carry a gun but for not taking the damn plea bargain. He would have been on a team right now.
I think his sentence was so BS b/c the mayor stepped in and clearly affected the outcome of the case. That’s some BS. We would have been hearing hell, if Plax got off b/c the mayor stepped in, where’s the noise for the reverse? This proves ppl aint really about justice. They’re just part of the racist sheeple.
Mike Vick got what he deserved, now let him play some ball.
Chris Brown deserves to go to jail according to law but according to what everyone else get, he should be walking free. I think thats an issue. Rihanna should go to jail also. We all know she is crazy and hit him too. Baysian women are nuts
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Yeah, not taking that first plea bargain was extremely stupid. Against the advice of his lawyers, too.
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and1grad Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I agree that its stupid in hindsight. But at the same time, I’m wondering if he was looking at past examples of how people only got probation and such. Either way, suckstobehim now.
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PJ Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
true that
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“I gotta admit Miss Jenkins. I think Plaxico doin’ the Cheddar Bob to himself (If you haven’t seen that movie, jump off a bridge)”
Slim, yes I’ve seen the Cheddar Bob movie so I can avoid the bridge for now, but whenever I think of something shooting themselves, I think of this classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE3QAeYRk-A&feature=PlayList&p=E0FA34CAEACD173C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=39
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Ms. Cherry Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
“16 in the clip and one in the hole” – Nate Dogg
See… there are valuable lessons in gangsta rap lmao!
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heres my quick 2 cents before the convoy to fla starts again. Def think the justice system is flawed in regards to the black man. in many ways this entire country is. black males always seem to get a tough deal. And of course the media hypes it up. we are cheerleaders for foolishness and always looking for a good headline. Neither punishment was fair in my opinion. I love dogs but it wasnt like vick killed anybody. people killers get off everyday And plaxico only hurt himself. Nfl players by default are the bad boys of the sports world. With so many on a team odds are the bad apples will get the spot light. Face it nobody cares about the goody goodies. they dont sell papers. But those getting in trouble will always be the media no. 1 draft pick for top stories.
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off topic….
are any of you Bostonians going out to JFK Library today or tomorrow?
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
The procession is passing by my office in a bit. Are you in the bean?
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insomN.I.A. Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
not at all. i want to be, though so i can go see the body lying in repose and because i’ve never been to bean town.
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Slim Jackson Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
People already gettin lined up outside just sittin there. Had to step around people when goin’ to cop a red bull.
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insomN.I.A. Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
CNN live is showing people out of their cars watching the motorcade.
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Some points:
1)The gun he was carrying was a glock and didn’t have a safety.
Eff ESPN, SNY 4 Life.
2)He was only on the stairs walking to VIP when he shot himself.
3)He was NOT wearing sweatpants, he said he had on black jeans. From what I can see in the security tape he is telling the truth.
4)Vick is going to play alot tonight, I CAN’T WAIT!
5)The three years for a weapons charge in NYC isn’t a rule like the media and Bloomberg are pushing. They could have given him less.
6)Anna, I can’t get over the fact that you called out my pipe game…. its been 24hrs and I can’t get over it. I might have to leak the first threeways sextape to clear my good name. Cheekie u down? No one will know its you, seriously.
7)Vick’s boy deserve to get shot when they come home. They Fed didn’t even have that great of a case against them, to roll on Vick like that. Pure snitching…. completely unacceptable.
Good Day ThreeWays… GoodDay
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Cheekie Tubman Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
“Cheekie u down? No one will know its you, seriously.”
If the tape subsequently leads me to part of Kim Kardashian’s life (the part where I get paps to follow my booty and I bed Reggie Bush on the daily), then yes, I am down.
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how did the entire NFL get labeled because two dudes went to prison?
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WTF! – How can people similar to Bernie Bicoy – who is a twice convicted child molestor get bail?
This animal forged himself as a attorney and Venture Capital – VC Research Expert with a slippery tongue to win trust of children. Out of all people, the gov lets him out on bail!
It’s sad but the streets of Lake Forest are hazardous. Is it possible to appeal?
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